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Posted: May 4, 2005 2:36 pm
I like Memphis ok, but the wife and I talk about movin' in the next couple of years. Suggestions? Sales pitches?
Posted: May 4, 2005 3:02 pm
New Orleans: "it's awesome! AND you can drink in the streets!"
Posted: May 4, 2005 3:19 pm
AND you can drink in the streets

I never understood the beauty in this until I experieced it at the Rockening. It really is a great feeling. Rockening 2005???
Posted: May 4, 2005 3:23 pm
Stratford. So good you'll want to live alone knee-deep in rubbish, only to be discovered dead a year later-

http://www.newhamrecorder.co.uk/content/newham/recorder/news/story.aspx?brand=RECOnline&category=new sNEWHAM&tBrand=northlondon24&tCategory=newsnewham&itemid=WeED03%20May%202005%2017%3A38%3A29%3A970

Unfortunately you'll have to buy the Newham Recorder to read the rest. But believe me, Stratford is a lovely place.
Posted: May 4, 2005 3:28 pm | Edited by: Womb Raider
Posted: May 4, 2005 4:04 pm
The Thing With Two Heads be thinkin' about movin' to St. Louis. Seems like a neato place.
Posted: May 4, 2005 4:10 pm
What about Louisville, KY(KY is funny), Ashville, NC, or anywhere in Jersey or Conneticut? Seattle? Portland?
Posted: May 4, 2005 4:39 pm
I think you'll find at least one Goner for [enter city name] and one against. I suppose that's good. Anyway, I think we had a similar thread when Fiery and Hollis were thinking of moving to New Orleans or something. Anyway, I still think Portland is a great town, though the job market is tight, it's a good size, pretty to look at, friendly to strangers and spangers, gets shows sometimes, has all-weather activities (skiing, hiking, boating, biking). I'm sure someone will disagree. If you want more info, just ask.

What exactly do you and your wife like to do? What kind of job are you looking for? Are you going to want to rent/buy a house/apt. etc.? Help us help YOU.
Posted: May 4, 2005 4:40 pm
Yeah , come to louisville. It aint that bad and it is funny. I'm gonna have a turkey leg and funnel cake for lunch. Derby week here. What kind of work you looking for? It's cheap to live here .
Posted: May 4, 2005 5:48 pm
Vancouver is beautiful, relatively clean, and has a lot of green space. It's got it's drawbacks (try the insane drug addiction issue and homelessness problems in our downtown lower east side - anyone who's been here can attest to that), but in the summer I don't think I'd want to be anywhere else. We have beaches, mountains and forests, and pretty decent weed to make it all the more enjoyable. The cost of living is kind of high but still cheaper than a lot of cities on the west coast. Plus it's in Canada and that's got many advantages. I've thought about moving elsewhere but I can't really think of anywhere that's better than Vancouver, in North America at least. I hate snow.
Posted: May 4, 2005 6:02 pm
Well, I teach music for the city schools right now. I'm about to start grad school for administration. So when(if) we movew, my job will most likely be in education administration, i.e principal or school board tyrant.
Posted: May 4, 2005 6:03 pm
ok, my home town of spartanburg, sc for this and this only: the NASCAR museum is being built there.
Posted: May 4, 2005 7:07 pm
portland is beautiful and chill, yes- don't come here for the rock scene.portland is an indie music scene and rock is like the retarded stepchild tucked away in the broom closet. if you can accept that, it's a cool town.
Posted: May 4, 2005 7:11 pm
i concur, and your rock scene, while small, showed us a pretty perfect time. every time i've been there i've met some of nicest people around.
Posted: May 4, 2005 9:07 pm | Edited by: sexual chocolate
I would move to Richmond, Virginia, if you're kind of genteel like me....unless I'm drunk.....or Savanah, Georgia is so beautifull, I looked at schools there, it's kind of a dangerous city but so beautifull, we're talking weeping willows and trains all along the river.....I love Southern Virginia, Georgia (but not realy Atlanta), and North Carolina.
Posted: May 4, 2005 9:15 pm
Ocean City, New Jersey
the bestest boardwalk ever
Posted: May 4, 2005 9:20 pm
Jersey City: when you can't afford Brooklyn.
Posted: May 4, 2005 9:53 pm | Edited by: Hugh Jass
Oakland is pretty okay. It's got great weather most of the year. Great (mostly ethnic stuff) food. A cool club in the Stork Club and it's close to San Francisco and Berkeley where there's Amoeba, the greatest record store ever. And the proximity to SF is good for seeing shows at places like the Hemlock and the Parkside. The downside to Oakland is: it's still pretty expensive for what you get, it's kind of dangerous, getting over that damn Bay Bridge in traffic is enough to make one commit suicide, and your friends in SF will never come to visit you in Oakland. Also, the school system here is FUCKED!

As for SF, don't even think of moving there unless you're a millionaire or you don't mind spending all of your damn money on living expenses.
Posted: May 4, 2005 10:20 pm
Well, I teach music for the city schools right now. I'm about to start grad school for administration. So when(if) we movew, my job will most likely be in education administration, i.e principal or school board tyrant.

Portland just laid off 218 teachers and is in the process of closing a bunch of schools. The schools NEED some decent administrators as it is obvious the ones they have had have been terrible. Vancouver, Washington is always hiring educators, though. Right now we are electing 3 new school board members but the school board is an unpaid position here, I think.
Posted: May 5, 2005 6:56 pm | Edited by: TheMalevolentOne
East Orange, New Jersey. The real estate is affordable, and you are close to New York City. A
spirit of entrepreneurship permeates street corners and back alleys alike.
Posted: May 5, 2005 8:39 pm
I'd try to sell my town, but it already spends more on P.R., advertising and shady perks than any other city on earth so I'd be wasting my typing fingers. Um... what happens here stays here... er... somethin'.
Posted: May 5, 2005 9:23 pm
I'm actually having a blast in Myrtle Beach, SC these days. It ain't bad at all once you know bartenders and coke dealers. BUT, once the summer tourist season is over, there's no more money for a crackhead waiters like me so I have to find somewhere else to go to. New Orleans , Atlanta/Athens, or Ashville,NC are the three cities that make the most sense right now. Who knows?
Posted: May 5, 2005 9:51 pm
Depending on your expectations, San Francisco is great. If you're an adult with a job, living here is fine. Trying to live here cheaply is almost impossible, so unless you're a masochist it's best to compromise whatever you got comfortable with elsewhere and suspend expectations in order to enjoy the innumerable advantages.

That said, after 7 years I've had it with this expensive yuppie shithole. I'm outta here and moving to Oakland within the next month or so.
Posted: May 5, 2005 10:16 pm
New Orleans. At my new bus stop, CHOPPER CITY is carved into the sidewalk. Authentic Metal Face drove by and waved. I puked twice last night. Matt Muscle is moving to Portland. New Orleans rules.
Posted: May 5, 2005 10:26 pm
Rockening 2005: HEAD. Spits, I hope. MOTO, I hope. After-party/hot dog party venue: Circle Bar. Bigger venue: undecided. Any suggestions?
Posted: May 5, 2005 10:30 pm
I have never been to Vancouver but if its only problem is one area of drug addicted homeless people, score.
even some Memphis suburbs scare outsiders, hell Rockin Raleigh scares me at night.
The memphis paper just ran an article talking about how we have a crapier baby survival rate than that of third world countries, that is sad.
Posted: May 5, 2005 10:38 pm
Bateman, The Thing With Two Heads is coming to NOLA soon and at least one half of us is going to motherfucking terrorize you.
Posted: May 5, 2005 10:39 pm
and maybe even both!
Posted: May 5, 2005 10:49 pm
Dirty White knows all the locations for hotels with pools in the NO area. Maybe she could help you 2 with a reservation ?

Posted: May 5, 2005 10:50 pm
Yeah I'll swim in a pool... a pool of DRUGS!
Posted: May 5, 2005 11:13 pm
A pool of sick!
Posted: May 6, 2005 3:10 am
Louisville is pretty damn cool, and about as affordable as Memphis (a hair pricey-er, but they tend to pay more).
Posted: May 6, 2005 2:16 pm
You can find some cool places that are really cheap in the not so trendy areas here. Might be a good idea to have an auto , depending on where you will live and work. The busses cover a lot of area though.
Posted: May 7, 2005 9:58 pm
Clevo - Poorest City in America.

Take that.
Posted: May 7, 2005 10:45 pm
I just moved to Milwaukee, and love it. There's great people here, good bands, good shows, good pizza, and always something to do. Rent is cheap. It's close to Chicago too, which is nice. I'd rather live close to Chicago, then in Chicago. I found an excellent paying job before I even moved here. I'm not even going to attempt to sell this place. You either come here and love it, or hate it. I felt at home right from the first.
Posted: May 7, 2005 10:48 pm
I was in Milwaukee for about a half an hour a few years ago and loved it.
Posted: May 7, 2005 10:55 pm
Kalamazoooooooo!!!!! were you CANT drink in the streets, you CANT drink in your car even if parked. And people wear scarves in 70 degree weather. But your free come on up or over or down to my city of hippie's and frat fucks, you'll be asked by the authorities if you have your flip-flops and cargo shorts.. if you dont you cant get in. " ABCDEFGHIJK..ive gotta GAY in Kalamazoo...." good song.

my friend just moved to Milwaukee, she's working for Harley Davidson.
Posted: May 8, 2005 5:33 am
The only reason me or anyone else I know stays in Louisville, is to be near family without living in a bum fuck town....I'm not gonna say it's not a nice place to live....but what it realy boils down too is family and convenience......generaly speaking, the price of living is low, but so is the pay rate....it actually averages out to about the same as any other city...the public school system totally fuckin sucks....public transportation totally fuckin sucks, and after the novelty of the Kentucky Derby wares off, it ammounts to little more than another excuse for your family to have bloody marries for breakfast, kind of like easter......oh yeah, it's predominantly catholic. But if I didn't love my family so much, and the family history I have hear, I never would have stuck around.
Posted: May 8, 2005 6:24 am
"Bitch" - that's a hot one, wiggerboy.
Posted: May 8, 2005 6:45 am
I would concur, without personal knowledge of school system (which would be relevant info. for Mr. Slaughter). However, cities do have differences in Costs of Living. I would say, that - compared to Memphis, Louisville is close to equal in this matter, and is a river town to boot.
Y'all got a fun town to visit in the Highlands and Downtown. Instrument prices on that main-street, Bardstown Rd(?), are very close to Memphis, too - for good or for bad. Anyway, Col. Sanders is buried there (seen it).
Posted: May 8, 2005 4:02 pm
Toronto - Too many ironic indie hipsters, last call is at 2am, you can only get beer at the government run "Beer Store" (which closes at 9), and its a pretty ugly city. That said, there are a few good bands here and lots of touring bands will actually make a detour from the US to play here. We have a giant phallic symbol dominating the skyline and lots of good, cheap restaurants.
Posted: May 9, 2005 12:52 am
the CN Tower right?
Posted: May 9, 2005 2:59 am
Austin, Texas: still better than Niangua, Missouri
Posted: May 9, 2005 4:30 am
Manitowoc, WI, all the way.
Posted: May 9, 2005 4:37 am
Louisville is the middle-ground between Cincinnatti and Memphis....and I hate Cincinnatii, it's full of suburban bottomfeeders, which is what I hate most about Louisville (but it's not as bad as Cinci)....Memphis seems to be on the opposite side of the spectrum in that respect...

The price of guitars here is no different than anywhere else realy, thanks to ebay, everyone knows what the going rate is, and naturaly these guitar boutiques want more than the going rate....What I like about Louisville is just how compact and clostrophobic it is as far as cities go...it's pretty densely populated, and it still retains a real small town feel....To me it's a close aproximation to Springfield on The Simpsons.....most people would absolutely hate it....I avoid the Highlands like the plague thow.
Posted: May 9, 2005 4:52 am
Alpena Mi. welcome to shit.
Posted: May 9, 2005 3:17 pm | Edited by: SAMBEAUX
Matt Muscle is moving to Portland

And he farted all the way to the airport.

Also funny was that after he locked his security gate to the treme townhouse that he was sharing with his med school roomate and some homosexual asshole nigerian, he tossed the keys to the apartment into the gutter across the street.
Posted: May 9, 2005 8:51 pm
Bateman, if you need tips on Boobytrapping your house/Apt. for Bazooka Joe's dreaded approach, e-mail me and I'll send blueprints.
He might get lucky though and only get his boobies trapped.
Posted: May 9, 2005 9:51 pm
Alpena Mi. welcome to shit.

while the town of alpena might be a shithole thanks to the paper plant, i will give respect to a little oasis, due north, called long lake. i spent many summer weeks there skipping stones, water skiing and generally enjoying "up north michigan lake culture." there's a point on that lake that just might be my favorite place on earth.
Posted: May 9, 2005 9:55 pm
Bateman, if you need tips on Boobytrapping your house/Apt. for Bazooka Joe's dreaded approach, e-mail me and I'll send blueprints.
He might get lucky though and only get his boobies trapped.

if you knew him you wouldn't help him.
Posted: May 9, 2005 9:57 pm | Edited by: SAMBEAUX
He's kind of like the perfect foil for you, Joe.

Make sure you give us (NOLA) advanced warning. Especially if you wanted to DJ something...

Now I'm trying to think of the perfect foil for sixteene.... Balrog?
Posted: May 9, 2005 9:59 pm
I actually just emailed Martel about that. When we going, one-six?
Posted: May 9, 2005 10:02 pm
i dunno yet...maybe July so we can die from the humidity?
Posted: May 9, 2005 10:02 pm
Yeah! From one sweatbox to another!
Posted: May 9, 2005 10:36 pm
while the town of alpena might be a shithole thanks to the paper plant, i will give respect to a little oasis, due north, called long lake. i spent many summer weeks there skipping stones, water skiing and generally enjoying "up north michigan lake culture." there's a point on that lake that just might be my favorite place on earth.

aw man, you're making me nostalgic for my grandparents' place in Manitowish Waters, WI. Same deal.
Posted: May 9, 2005 10:52 pm
Right on Hollis! Long Lake- full of blood suckers,Schlitz pulltabs, and broken Mt Dew bottles but still the best part of Alpena.
Ever go to the miniature golf/go-cart track on Us23? Right next to the Stockade party store?

of coarse. that was a required stop. my sister earned the nickname "weeds" because i knocked her through the tire blockade and into the weeds on the go kart track.

regarding the stockade. that's where we'd go for beer and booze. one thing that i love is that you called it a party store. no one out here on the west coast knows what the fuck that means. they think it means a "party supply store" like for balloons and shit. i tell em a true party store is where you can get booze, toiletpaper, porn and if they've got they're shit together, a nice deli sandwhich. one stop shopping.

did you grow up around there? my grandparents summer up there.
Posted: May 10, 2005 1:48 am
Move to Columbia Missouri and you'll be initially disappointed and more than a little freaked out until its 10 years later and you still haven't left.

1.There is a pizza place called Shakespeare's which has a bar you can drink at.

2.Columbia is the birthplace of Whizz Records whose second or third owner Whitney, discovered (perhaps spawned) The Revelators. (Schooley-please corroborate)

3.The Untamed Youth are also from Columbia as well as Drew from Portland's The Wet Heaves.

4.For a year or so in the nineties, "Jim Cole" was the most covered song in town.

5.Not alot of chicks stick around after graduating college but the ones that do are HOT.

6.Eastside is a phenomenal Heavy Metal themed bar that has shows alot, notably, Memphis's The Lost Sounds

7.Memphis transplant TRYPMKR does the best radio show in the midwest on KOPN 89.5 FM Thursdays from 3-5 CST.

8.Pretty much everyone is completely laid back and sincere which sometimes unnerves out of towners who are used to "networking" and hipster oneupsmanship.

9.Dustin from The Eugenics Council started a completely original and fantastic record store with his friend Tiffany about a year or so ago. Its called Apop Records and its on Cherry ST.

10. The 24 hour grocery stores Schnuck's and Gerbes are psychedelic wonderlands worthy of endless nights of loitering and elaborate shoplifting fantasies.
Posted: May 10, 2005 1:53 am
sounds fascinating...
Posted: May 10, 2005 2:22 am
Mark said to rep my city, bitch.
Posted: May 10, 2005 2:28 am
I'm serious!
Posted: May 10, 2005 2:46 am
Big Star played there in '93 for some reason.
Posted: May 10, 2005 2:46 am | Edited by: bazooka joe
I'm serious!

Especially about the grocery stores! I miss that about Vegas. Me and my roommate David would go to Vons at midnight. I would be stoned, standing in an aisle in absolute hysterics completely unable to stop the flow of laugh tears because I was about to go to the register with a container each of fried chicken and butterscotch pudding from the fridge section and I knew that the check out girl would know what I was up too. Damn I miss me some 24 hour grocery stores!
Posted: May 10, 2005 2:47 am
Oh yeah, the butterscotch pudding had whipped cream on top.
Posted: May 10, 2005 2:49 am
Sadly, those were the 10 best things I could come up with. Its still worth a look, though.
Posted: May 10, 2005 2:51 am
Columbia, Missouri: still better than Niangua, Missouri, still worse than Austin, Texas.

Wouldn't say Whitney "discovered" the Revelators, since everybody in town "discovered" us at the same time when we played our first show. Nobody knew who we were before that, and those who did know us just assumed we were going to suck. (Actually asked Whitney if he wanted to be in the band, but alas, his true calling was selling records, not makin' 'em.) The Revelators practiced in the basement of Whizz! for awhile. Whitney sold me my first Link Wray LP, if that counts as "spawning."

Does anybody in that town (besides Jason Cafer, perhaps) even remember the Youth or the Revelators? I work with a girl who moved here from Columbia, and tho' her tastes are hardly Goner-friendly, I woulda thunk she'd at least HEARD of the Revelators, but no...
Posted: May 10, 2005 2:58 am
I like Redondo Beach. When I get rich, I'm movin to Redondo Beach. That's where the girls volleyball teams practice ALL YEAR LONG! Coffe is good too. Can't slag the home of Black Flag. But it sure is expensive.
Posted: May 10, 2005 2:59 am
Is her name Laura?
Anyway, I suppose you know that KFER put out that best of como comp. w/ "Under The Gun" and "Earthshaker Yeah" on it. You guys actually aged really well like a fine wine or cheese.
My copy of the LP was long since stolen so its been a while.
Although I do have a cassette of an interview I did with Mark after y'all got back from Europe circa 1997.

p.s. I always assumed Whitney was your Kim Fowley. Guess not.
Posted: May 10, 2005 3:02 am
You could drink black coffee and stare at the wall in Redondo Beach while listening to "Black Coffee".
Posted: May 10, 2005 3:03 am
I work with a girl who moved here from Columbia, and tho' her tastes are hardly Goner-friendly, I woulda thunk she'd at least HEARD of the Revelators, but no...

Hey baby I was in the Revelators. You must have heard of us!

The what-a-laters?

Posted: May 10, 2005 3:07 am
"Who's That Writin'"

"John The Revelator"

Now that is rock n' roll continuity.
Posted: May 10, 2005 3:33 am
J. Ross Browne, a wandering journalist, visited Tucson in the late 1850s and had this to say: "Tucson was a place of resort for traders, speculators, gamblers, horse thieves, murderers and vagrant politicians. Men who were no longer permitted to live in California found the climate of Tucson congenial to their health. If the world were searched over I suppose there could not be found so degraded a set of villains as then formed the principal society of Tucson. Every man went armed to the teeth, and street fights and bloody affrays were of daily occurrence. It was literally a paradise of devils."

and so I examine some of the high points of this place which does not have too much going for it (including locations, for those of you who might find yourself here for some god forsaken reason; and photos for those of you lucky enough to never come here)

a 20' Paul Bunyan statue on the corner of Glenn/Stone ave that gets dressed up like Santa/a ballerina for xmas/halloween

a full bar in a Denny's restaurant Broadway/Wilmot

Sonoran style Hot Dog carts all over the place

big giant archetype cactus / coyote vs. roadrunner cartoon land

El Tiradito shrine, right next to El Minuto Café downtown. The story is that back in the late 1800s a philandering railroad worker was caught by a cuckolded husband and was chopped to pieces for his troubles. To add insult to injury, the husband then scattered those pieces along the Southern Pacific tracks leading to Mexico, thus leading to the name El Tiradito, "the little castaway," and, ultimately, to the only shrine devoted to a sinner in the entire Southwest.

a bar/hamburger joint named after and run by sub genius followers, Bob Dobbs ...5th/tucson

The Garden of Gethsemane between the Santa Cruz River Walk and the traffic on westbound Congress Street. Created on the river banks in the late '40s to house the religious sculpture of Felix Lucero, it was moved to the current cite in 1971. High stuccoed walls with intermittent wrought-iron grillwork surround concrete renderings of the Last Supper, the Crucifixion, Jesus, Mary and Joseph and others.

the No-Tel Motel ...last remaining seedy hourly motel in town

Rattlesnake Bridge
Broadway Boulevard, just west of Euclid Avenue
and yes the tail rattles when you cross it

The Meet Rack
210 W. Drachman St.
there's a sex room you can take tours of, and you can get branded by the owner if you want drink discounts (maybe not anymore a woman sued him and the case went to People's Court so....) free cigarettes in glasses on the bar, free mystery jukebox (just push some numbers)
plus a damn fine cheeseburger.The owner "God" sleeps in the back

a fine mural I like to stare at outside the local meat packing plant
Posted: May 10, 2005 3:37 am
Her name is Lindsey, she said she usedta work at the Blue Note. She'd never heard of Untamed Youth, either. There's probably more people in Holland who know about those bands than in the town they came out of.

Does Rager still work at Kinko's? How many of the folks picking up their copies are unaware he was the Farfisa genius behind the Youth?

The only time they ever let the Revelators stain the stage of the Blue Note was when we played with Untamed Youth at Whitneys wedding reception show. At Whitney's insistence. Otherwise, it was all house parties and clubs that ain't there no mo'.

Damn, am I glad I moved.
Posted: May 10, 2005 3:47 am
Rager duz still fax n' file at Kinkos last I checked.
Remember when Breeze puked in your guitar case?
Prolly good to get out of Columbia, but Austin???!!!

p.s. Mike Sapp is still bitter he didn't get credited for the photo on that first 7".
Posted: May 10, 2005 3:51 am
Go to Dallas and take a left.
Posted: May 10, 2005 4:10 am
Aw, c'mon. If Austin is so bad, how come it's home to an ex-Revelator AND an ex-Blacktop bassist?

Check out me and Alex Cuervo's new combo, "The Former Members", coming soon to Beerland...
Posted: May 10, 2005 4:17 am
former raunch hand...
Posted: May 10, 2005 4:19 am
Check out The Litigators in turn.
The Gasping Widgets are a '68 Comeback cover band that just formed.
The Down Under bar is now called The Sapphire Lounge and they have a miserable Uncle Tupelo cover band that plays on Friday nites.
Posted: May 11, 2005 5:36 am
Memphis ain't all that bad though....
Reply 59992..
Posted: May 11, 2005 5:37 am
Neither is Bozeman, Montana...
Reply 59993...
Posted: May 11, 2005 6:24 am
>Bazooka Joe...St. Louis??? What goes there?? In my past experience...not much....you may as well head to the other side of Missouri to KCMO for some good BBQ at least...

I don't know why anyone comes to NYC...please stop....11 years for me...maybe times up. Girlfriend is stranded in Tokyo with visa issues...so maybe i am heading that way soon...
Posted: Jun 2, 2005 5:04 pm
Columbia Missouri has the best grocery stores in the world.
Posted: Jun 2, 2005 5:09 pm
I gotta say I dig the grocery stores in Han(g)over , PA. They're regular big stores but nobody's ever in 'em!
Posted: Jun 17, 2005 8:09 pm
Are we recording?
Posted: Jun 17, 2005 8:26 pm
Time to do the sheet.
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