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Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:15 am
Good for Ty! Good for America!

Posted: Oct 18, 2012 2:20 am
wow that wannabe hendrix wank is really out of this world... not bad in any way, if anything its too good. i couldnt imagine myself buying that record.
Posted: Oct 18, 2012 8:18 am
'wannabe hendrix wank'?

Just because you can't play a guitarsolo there's no reason to piss on everyone who can.
And Hendrix? Ever heard some 'stunt guitar' by that dildo? Not that comparing Ty with Jimiiiiiii makes any sence at all, but at the end of the day HENDRIX is the wank. It is written in The Hall Of Shame.
Posted: Oct 18, 2012 8:38 am
"[Ty] was talking to me about Jimi Hendrix the other day," says Rian Murphy, head of staff at the Chicago-based Drag City label. "And he was saying that, for the longest time, you couldn't really claim that you liked Hendrix in a straight way, because it had become a joke somehow. But he's so glad now that people can because that's the way he's always felt about it.
Posted: Oct 18, 2012 8:53 am
But he's so glad now that people can

Well, then he is nuts too

and so are you

gimme the source of that quote, you idiot bastard son.
Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:01 am
Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:09 am | Edited by: Ding Le Dangle
So it's just a random remark with no reference to his own music?

And you have to disagree with that remark, I mean, how fuckin wrong IS he!

Ty is The Second Coming Of Peter Frampton.
And that is written on the head of a pin.
Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:24 am
Not a fan, but good for him. Dude's been blowing up.
Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:43 am
Am a fan of most of his stuff. Esp. like his guitarwork. It's loose at the right times.
Man, you should listen to the latest Oh Sees and hear how those things can go so horribly wrong that you actually break the record in pieces.
Posted: Oct 18, 2012 10:02 am
Pitchfork fucking sucks and has always sucked...if you want to totally get mindfucked read Pitchfork...but Ty's pretty cool, not bad.
Posted: Oct 18, 2012 10:08 am
Another obtuse observation...people love to hate on Mathew Sweet, but he had fucking Robert Quine shredding on all of his records...
Posted: Oct 18, 2012 10:52 am
great moment for rock'n'roll in the 21st century. just surprised that the song he played wasn't as monumental as something like "girlfriend." i hope there's some "hits" on this new one. makes for good djing.
Posted: Oct 18, 2012 11:10 am
Yeah, kind of feels like 1995 watching that...but could just be Conan...I wonder if I can find Screaming Trees or something like that on Conan.
Posted: Oct 18, 2012 11:14 am | Edited by: leftpeg
Man, you should listen to the latest Oh Sees and hear how those things can go so horribly wrong that you actually break the record in pieces.

Instead of doing that, you should have just given it to me.

just surprised that the song he played wasn't as monumental as something like "girlfriend." i hope there's some "hits" on this new one. makes for good djing.

Like the single, perhaps?
Posted: Oct 18, 2012 11:21 am
No Conan, but this one has some bitchin pre-garage boom Epiphone Crestwood action...

Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:01 pm
Like the single, perhaps?

yeah, that's pretty good. still no "girlfriend."
Posted: Oct 18, 2012 1:13 pm
Man the termbo crowd hates Mathew Sweet...I realize it's a guilty pleasure of mine...but they get violent about it...I'm not talking on the termbo messageboard, I'm talking about real life....I've tested on numerous people...and Pitchfork people...oh man, Pitchfork people forget about it, those followers won't admit to shit.
Posted: Oct 18, 2012 1:16 pm
Havent been crazy about his records till i heard Twins. but i do like guitars and tons of classic rock.
Posted: Oct 18, 2012 1:19 pm
Those matthew sweet records with bob quine AND richard lloyd have some awesome guitar solos
Posted: Oct 18, 2012 1:39 pm | Edited by: tigerblinds
They have some redeeming qualities..some people's guilty pleasure is Bay City Rollers, some people it's KISS or ABBA, some people it's Aerosmith, others it's Urge Overkill...well for me it's Mathew Sweet, but I happen to love every act I just mentioned....they're fun....SMASH MOUTH!
Posted: Oct 18, 2012 1:57 pm
Still haven't heard the new one, but I'll probably get it.
Now that I finally have a job, there's a whole lot of new records I need to pick up.

Girlfriend is a pretty good one, Joe, but that Universal Momma song is hands down my favorite. My only complaint is it's too short.
Posted: Oct 18, 2012 5:51 pm
i like alot of ty segalls stuff too, this song just didnt do it for me. i love well crafted guitar solos and i think my own leads are concise and well written, but of course that is also an opinion. back on the subject of hendrix, he had some great stuff mixed in with a whole lotta suck.
Posted: Oct 19, 2012 12:37 am
I generally feel that THEE first single off an album is almost never the strongest or catchiest cut. Having never heard this album, I can't speak to it specifically, though. I do think the sound of most bands - even bands I like - tend to translate really crummy when playing live on tv, and this sounds pretty fucking good.

PS, why are we talking about Matthew Sweet?
Posted: Oct 19, 2012 1:36 pm
You know why.
Posted: Oct 19, 2012 9:45 pm
HA! Took me a minute to get that comment -was still trying to understand what the two had to do with each other.
Posted: Oct 19, 2012 9:56 pm
I thought it rocked. He even broke a strap at the end and continued rocking. Melted rules.
Posted: Oct 21, 2012 12:58 pm
Posted: Oct 21, 2012 4:08 pm
we played with ty segal, he was a rad ass dude! he and the girl in his band were nice as hell!
Posted: Oct 21, 2012 4:30 pm
Just to be clear Senor Cheng is not commenting on Ty Segall but the conversation in this thread.
Posted: Oct 22, 2012 6:33 am
Posted: Oct 22, 2012 11:13 am | Edited by: tigerblinds
Not starting a flame war with you Goner dorks this time.

But yeah, why isn't Mathew Sweet appropriat to this thread?

You are fucking morons.

There are the Goner cool guys, and the Goner dorks..which you wanna be?
Posted: Oct 22, 2012 11:42 am
long live dorks. probably don't want to talk about matthew sweet because this thread is about ty. go start a matthew sweet thread.

I think the new Ty record is pretty great. I love the fuzz sound on "Ghost". I could listen to the shittiest song in the world, but if it had that sludginess, then I'd be ok. Looking at you lady gaga. Compared to Melted or Lemons, I think it has much more of a '60s SF sunniness to the songwriting like Jefferson Airplane or Relatively Clean Rivers, if that makes any sense. I bet it doesn't. Yay my opinion!
Posted: Oct 22, 2012 12:17 pm | Edited by: tigerblinds
Rayultine, I'm sure you breath stinks of salami as bad as theirs does...take your schoolmarm logic elsewhere....you old fart.
Posted: Oct 22, 2012 12:30 pm
salami's pretty good. especially genoa.
Posted: Oct 22, 2012 12:39 pm
Posted: Oct 22, 2012 12:46 pm
Yeah, ya mangiacakes....Mathew Sweet is a subtopic here, what's itta to yeahs?
Posted: Oct 22, 2012 12:52 pm
Posted: Oct 22, 2012 2:09 pm
tigerblinds, go back on yer meds
Posted: Oct 22, 2012 3:04 pm
I'm confused. I thought tigerblinds was saying that the goner dorks were the good guys, whereas the goner cool guys were the poseur bad guys. I was wrong. I don't want to be a dork! I want to be COOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

I don't want to be no personal pizza I just wanna live my life
Posted: Oct 22, 2012 3:08 pm
I'm fine...you need to get laid...here is some more sucky music for your dork ear holes.

Posted: Oct 22, 2012 3:11 pm | Edited by: tigerblinds
If you don't understand why we are talking about Mathew Sweet and it's pissing you off...you are a fucking dork double fold...beyond that, don't worry your pretty heads...I mean fucking sheesh.

Go to a fucking bar, slip some sedative in someones drink, whatever gender you prefer...but quit the cry baby shit.
Posted: Oct 22, 2012 3:24 pm
I'm crying? I'm the last person to be on topic in this fucking thread. God you're dumb.

And I'm happily married as shit, troll master.
Posted: Oct 22, 2012 3:27 pm
Are you pissed off? Are you loosing sleep at night?...then I'm not talking to you Rayultine......goddamn

All you anal retentive types pick your anuses on your own time......clean each others anuses.....

You took a stupid joke and made it personal like dinguses....typical shit from the usual stupid shits.
Posted: Oct 22, 2012 3:29 pm | Edited by: tigerblinds
God, this thread has been blown all out of context....write a fucking letter to Mittens Romney you fucking losers.
Posted: Oct 22, 2012 3:35 pm
where was the stupid joke? I was just riffing on your silliness. I don't care at all if I'm cool or a dork. Honestly, I'm a huge nerd and I have no IRL friends from this website, and really that's perfectly alright. So I'm pretty sure you are king blowing everything out of proportion.
Posted: Oct 22, 2012 3:43 pm
quit being all gay in here rayultine, god you are so fucking stupid and you are blowing this shit all out of context, why cant you be cool like tigerblinds?
Posted: Oct 22, 2012 3:52 pm
Posted: Oct 22, 2012 4:24 pm
oh yeah, i said I was happily married, but I didn't say who I was married to. Turns out I'm a gay mormon with 30 husbands. yowzas.
Posted: Oct 22, 2012 7:32 pm
and oof. "between the bridges" is by far the worst Sloan album. turrible.
Posted: Oct 23, 2012 7:36 am | Edited by: tigerblinds
Monday's are tough so I was taking it easy on you swine.
Posted: Oct 23, 2012 9:04 am
is that Conan clip what you hipster fucks call good rock music? Sucks in all kinds of ways.
Posted: Oct 24, 2012 1:13 am
i thought it was swell to see them on TV !

they are super nice folks and i am glad to have been able to see them on multiple occasions :)

someone made this sweet lil ghetto video to a ty song...

Posted: Oct 24, 2012 1:16 am
oh and geto boys A+
Posted: Oct 24, 2012 7:47 am
I like Ty, but comeon Alita....that's a homemade Cocacola commercial...

Where is Jeffrey Novak? I want to see Novak on dillweed Conan's show.
Posted: Oct 24, 2012 9:41 am
i love the song in that vid. it sounds like dan melchior, eh?
Posted: Oct 24, 2012 10:07 am
Well what the hell do I know...I like Ty Segall, Sloan, Between the Bridges, Thee Oh Sees, all sortsa Goner shit, and Jimi Hendrix. You douchenozzles just wanna hate on shit to get cool guy points. News flash: there ain't no cool guy points. And even if there were, you can't take 'em with you when you die. You'll just be worm food for hipster worms.
Posted: Oct 24, 2012 10:44 am
i love the shit out of sloan. how could you not if you're a fan of power pop? how could I not growing up in Detroit in the early '90s? But for realzies, Between the Bridges is the nadir, and that conan clip is boring
Posted: Oct 24, 2012 10:47 am
but hey bro, that's my opinion. i haven't ever told anyone on this board to rot in hell because of their musical taste. And I've only told tigerblinds and ding to rot in hell when they were being feisty for no reason.
Posted: Oct 24, 2012 10:56 am
y'all are seriously the most frequently butthurt bunch of rock n roll fans i've ever seen on the internet
Posted: Oct 24, 2012 11:16 am
quit being such a homophobe....butthurt and proud
Posted: Oct 24, 2012 11:35 am
what he ^^^^ said
Posted: Oct 24, 2012 12:28 pm
hipster worms.
Posted: Oct 24, 2012 12:31 pm
butt worms!
Posted: Oct 24, 2012 2:49 pm
Man, you should listen to the latest Oh Sees and hear how those things can go so horribly wrong that you actually break the record in pieces.

I think this record fucking rules.
Posted: Oct 24, 2012 3:35 pm
it sounds like dan melchior, eh?

You're thinking Das Menace? Eh...I dunno.
Posted: Oct 24, 2012 3:37 pm
Dan Melchior could still use more exposure....alot of other stuff not so much.
Posted: Oct 24, 2012 4:09 pm
it's dan melchior melody and vocal style all the way.
Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:35 am
Well since you pointed it out yeah I guess I can hear a similarity....how can I say this in all sincerity....Ty can't touch Melchior with a stick...but I like the guy.
Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:38 am
It does have an Old Time Future Shock vibe....without the substance I never even noticed.
Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:43 am
Ty does a good Syd Barrett also...uh yeah, Syd Barrett is still better.
Posted: Oct 25, 2012 10:25 am | Edited by: tigerblinds
I like Ty alot, I don't tell people to turn his music off, I was bummed I had to miss him at Cropped Out fest when I went to Goner two years ago....

but my musical tastes are pretty straightforward, I like outsider music, folk music, and loud in-your-face dangerous (in an un-cliche way) rocknroll....it's best if all three of those things can be rolled up into one band...

I love early Jon Spencer Blues Explosion, but I wouldn't realy be that excited if a new band of younger guys who had mastered that sound came along....that sound has been forged, it's the JSBX sound....

So it's not that I don't like Ty, he is cool, but I'm not making any qualms about not being enthralled by alot of his stuff....it's great but not one of my go too bands...

Like you said, good filler between live sets....great, solid, stuff....I love me some Ramones knock off bands, but the only ones worth going back to achieved their own sound....I love The Blacks, they were just an Oblivians knock off band, they had their own sound......it was unique to them...

Ty still hasn't won me over in a big way....I hate pop sensibilities, always have....I love all of the other shit about music.
Posted: Oct 25, 2012 10:46 am | Edited by: leftpeg
If you don't understand why we are talking about Mathew Sweet and it's pissing you off...you are a fucking dork double fold...

I just don't know who he is. That's why I don't understand.
Posted: Oct 25, 2012 11:08 am
one of my go too bands

yeah, everybody has a band to listen to while they're on the toilet....
Posted: Oct 25, 2012 11:46 am | Edited by: tigerblinds
The Beatles are a perfect example of what I'm talking about, they were at their best when they sounded like "The Beatles"....sure they had Everly Brothers harmonies, everyone has influences, but so many other unique factors went into it, unique to them...besides the obvious Ringo drums, they had alot of skiffle influence, etc.; all kinds of unique things, eccentricities, they were self taught for the most part. The BeeGees on the other hand, were singing in natural harmonies like The Beatles, they had that part of it down pat, but they didn't have alot of the other stuff that colorized The Beatles sound and made them so legit. The BeeGees had a more standard approach. That's why I would rather listen to "nonmusicians" than a bunch of musician farts, it more exciting when guys can't achieve any particular sound but their own....

Maybe I just haven't given Ty enough of a chance, or maybe he will grow into his own distinct thing....but I'm way more into alot of other stuff happening right now.
Posted: Oct 25, 2012 11:51 am
I think The Beatles are overrated by all babyboomers, but you know, they are a good example in this case.....anything regarding the evolution of pop music into the utter bullshit that it has become...also they say all cultural movements or "revolutions" eventually become a facade of their former selves....so I like to consider that rule to a certain degree....
Posted: Oct 25, 2012 12:12 pm
Just consider all these ubiquitous and bogus Guided By Voices bands...that whole thing turned into bullshit real fast. I'm not realy accusing Ty of that, Eric does a great job of quality control...but being able to nail somebody elses sound has never left an impression on me...it's like The Beatles vs. BeeGees.....it's like the shits in college who learn to write just like Jack Kerouac...that's great...so what?
Posted: Oct 25, 2012 12:55 pm
Chico Harris > tigerblinds
Posted: Oct 25, 2012 1:05 pm
tigerblinds: seeing ty live might up your appreciation. I think he puts on a great show.

and yeah, melchior is definitely on a winning streak. I just lost a sibling to a terminal disease, so "the backward path" has been a real good album to sink my mind into.
Posted: Oct 25, 2012 1:31 pm
I got one more post in me and then I'm done...I've only been harping on about ths particular subject on here for like 15 years now, only difference is that I keep getting better at explaining it.

To some people the blues is just the blues, it's a genre, might as well be Son House, W.C. Handy, Bukka White, or Stevie Ray Vaughn....it doesn't matter....I've never been that sort of a music fan, I fucking hate W.C. Handy and SRV...they took what was personal music that reflected the trials and tribulations of the poor and downtrodden, and made the songs paletable for a wider mainstream pop audience...that doesn't catch my fancy, it's less of a personal statement, it's watered down, it's homogenized. It's not as specific or unique.

This isn't just a problem in music culture, in the medical community there is this shifting away from specialists to a more generalized medical training. Instead of having someone who has dedicated their entire career to operating on the shoulder and are very good at operating on shoulders, they are pushing them to be more "well rounded" and wholistic, sort of like 'medical minstrels'....someone who can do a little bit of everything, but not one thing all that well, knows a little bit about everything but not much of anything in particular....part of it is that hospitals have to pay specialists so much more...and that specialised training is harder to come by and fascilitate....

Or it's like a fucking new american made car with all these bullshit bells and whistles, like a cup holder within a cup holder, so it can accomodate a Starbucks cup or an even bigger Big Gulp cup, just useless features, but at the end of the day the car still runs like shit.

This shit is all considered technological advancements, but it's realy just basterdizing and devaluing very important tools, skills, knowledge...

Rap rock was great, rap fans can wave hand signs to it and rock fans can bang their heads to it...what a gold mine that was. Pop music is all about cross over potential and all this shit....I don't like it.

The nice thing about Ty is that he does a good job of sounding like his specific influences, he doesn't just sound like some gimmicky crap, you know Led Zeppelin (who I like) or Carpenters (who I also like) and name drop obscure punk bands for street cred....and he seems like a fairly prolific song writer...you have to give him credit, at least his fans, the nubes, can probbably go back and listen to old records and identify with the sound to an extent.
Posted: Oct 25, 2012 1:32 pm
Chico Harris > tigerblinds

Hilarious. Post of the year.
Posted: Oct 25, 2012 1:34 pm
I hate pop sensibilities, always have.

Carpenters (who I also like)

tb: you're a riddle, shrouded in mystery, surrounded by uncertainty, and wrapped in bacon.
Posted: Oct 25, 2012 1:34 pm
He is alright in my book.
Posted: Oct 25, 2012 1:36 pm | Edited by: tigerblinds
Rayultine, I'm an open book man....anyone who comes into my orbit knows this...but I alway operate on mutual terms.

It's alot easier to communicate with one person at a time, than like 50 people at a time on a messageboard.

Sometimes I live in the city, and sometimes the town....

I'd like to be considered as Pynchonian but I can't even get threw Mason and Dixon and this stage in my life...

You think I actually listen to the Carpenters? Man, it's okay at my parents house....shits and giggles.
Posted: Oct 25, 2012 1:40 pm
i'd like pynchon to return to me all of the time that i wasted reading gravity's rainbow.

people always say that my mom looks like karen carpenter. I'd preferred that singing ran in our family rather than good looks.
Posted: Oct 25, 2012 1:41 pm
now you're gonna try to be punk rock and backtrack from liking the carpenters? they wrote awesome jams. why so much shame on this bulletin board?! hah
Posted: Oct 25, 2012 5:30 pm
I definitely hear Melchior in that Ty song on the video. I get bored pretty easily by alot of Ty's stuff but that that one clicked with me. I dig it. I'm in the same boat as Tigerblinds. I like him alright but I feel like everything he's doing has been done better. It's not that he's inauthentic but there's a bit of a white-bread vibe to alot of his stuff. Traditional Fools are still the shit though.
Posted: Oct 26, 2012 11:25 am
"between the bridges" is by far the worst Sloan album. turrible.

Jumping in late and kinda off-topic but I would sub Pretty Together for BTB in the above statement. IMO the stretch from Twice Removed through BTB was their best run.
Posted: Oct 26, 2012 3:12 pm
sixelsix, i gave tigerblinds shit about being off-topic and blabbing about matthew sweet, so now i will give you shit about being off-topic and blabbing about sloan.

you're a poop head. navy blues sucks too. they lost me after one chord to another. though "never hear the end of it" is awesome.
Posted: Oct 29, 2012 5:55 pm
i'd like pynchon to return to me all of the time that i wasted reading gravity's rainbow.

I only made it 150 pages in before I had to admit to myself that I had no idea what the fuck was going on. Then again, I was 18 then. Maybe it would make more sense now. But probably not.
Posted: Oct 30, 2012 9:16 am
too long to read all this back and forth tigerB: i like the homemade ty cocacola commercial video b/c lil ghetto kids dancing without the asscracks and dickswag is a funthing :)
Posted: Oct 30, 2012 1:15 pm
Damn I'm a good writer...
Posted: Oct 30, 2012 1:39 pm | Edited by: tigerblinds
I had a Sloan cassette....and I liked it alot.
Posted: Oct 30, 2012 1:47 pm | Edited by: tigerblinds
Oh yeah, I wouldn't recommend Gravity's Rainbow to people realy...it's too dense and supposed to simulate an LSD trip....I can say I've read it but, I would mostly skip around....like Joyce's Ulyssus...

I might recommend Crying of Lot 49, loved The Paranoids....or Vineland, they say the Coen Bros. tried to buy the rights to that book, they even had a script, and Pynchon refused and two years later Big Lebowski was released...there is a big correlation there.....
Posted: Nov 5, 2012 4:54 pm
Ty is on Letterman tonight
Posted: Nov 5, 2012 6:53 pm
Dear Ty,
Please play Universal Momma.
Posted: Nov 5, 2012 11:28 pm
Posted: Nov 6, 2012 12:56 am
the bass player needs to lower his strap and someone should brutus the barber beefcake those fuckers, otherwise it wasnt bad, high energy in spite of the girl drumming. she kept it chugging along nicely but the song was just begging for a harder hitting drum part.
Posted: Nov 6, 2012 1:00 am
i tought this was way better than the conan shits.
Posted: Nov 6, 2012 8:38 pm
I thought it was pretty cool the way Emily stayed cool in the midst of the flailing. 99% of people who hit drums would go all Keith Moon if given 1/10000000th of a chance. Which is how it should be- they're drummers. But still, not doing it, cool.
Posted: Nov 6, 2012 8:42 pm
dug it, thought she hit plenty hard
Posted: Nov 6, 2012 9:56 pm
Pretty amazing.
Posted: Nov 6, 2012 11:10 pm
yeah eric thats a fair way of looking at it. not bad, thats for sure.
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