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Posted: Aug 21, 2012 11:51 pm
When's the release date?
Is it a 10inch or 12inch?
Is Delana on the cover?
Is it 400 gram?
Does it come with a temporary tattoo?
Is it all cover songs?
Is the music relevant to 1996?

Posted: Aug 22, 2012 11:06 am
.Is the music relevant to 1996?

Unabomber blues!
Posted: Aug 22, 2012 11:12 am | Edited by: bazooka joe
is it coming out on vinyl?
Posted: Aug 22, 2012 11:22 am
Is it gonna have songs even I can relate too?
Posted: Aug 22, 2012 11:25 am
Can I wait until it's out of print and buy it on eBay?
Posted: Aug 22, 2012 12:18 pm
When's the release date?

not until '13?
Posted: Aug 22, 2012 12:22 pm
Im already 13!

Posted: Aug 23, 2012 1:06 pm
I want it on CD to go with my copy of Popular Favorites.
Posted: Aug 23, 2012 2:21 pm
is digipak ok or do you want a jewel case?
Posted: Aug 23, 2012 2:22 pm
I always throw away the jewel cases.....minidisk would be cool.
Posted: Aug 23, 2012 3:47 pm
will it be available on 8 track?
Posted: Aug 23, 2012 4:03 pm
Eric promised me this would be released on sooty paper.
Can't wait!
Posted: Aug 23, 2012 5:40 pm
im playing xylophone on 5 tracks!!! bing bing bong. ( i lied )
Posted: Aug 23, 2012 6:15 pm
I hope it has beatboxn' on it and comes in a sanwich baggie. like yr mom.
Posted: Aug 24, 2012 3:06 am
Posted: Aug 24, 2012 6:45 am
I hope it has the lyrics so we don't have a repeat internet meltdown
Posted: Aug 24, 2012 7:26 am
Preview on 9/27.
Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:23 am
I want a copy on betamax. No picture. Just the latest oblivians release playing through my curtis mathis tv.
Posted: Aug 24, 2012 9:44 am
never mind:
the alarm clocks have a new single out and are comin' up with a brand new lp!
Posted: Aug 24, 2012 11:19 pm
No wait, 3 ten inches, with each instrument recorded seperately one per 10 inch resulting in the listener having to play all 3 at the same time to hear the full album.

Flaming lips style!
Posted: Aug 25, 2012 2:30 am
that would fuckin rule!!!

Posted: May 15, 2013 9:17 am
Pre order is up if ya didn't already know.

Posted: May 15, 2013 1:37 pm

blue vinyl.

dtrain is on his way over here right now...with vodka!
Posted: May 15, 2013 3:11 pm
How did you get it already? I need to have you start emailing me when this shit goes up. First Human Eye, now this! Ordered yesterday. Probably too late for the "colored" but we'll see. Picked up the UV Race too.
Posted: May 15, 2013 3:14 pm | Edited by: bazooka joe
traded larry h. for the new black gladiator stuff. i totally got the better end of the deal.
Posted: May 15, 2013 3:15 pm
ps me and dtrain are drinking vodka and listening to this right now. KILLER!
wait til you hear "run for cover."
Posted: May 15, 2013 3:18 pm
Damn! Larry H, send the ones to Nick in Columbus ASAP! He's important.
Posted: May 15, 2013 3:25 pm
Posted: May 15, 2013 6:31 pm
dtrain played me the 1st evil army album in it's entirety, on a bad ass system no less. he finally heard tsot. mission accomplished.
Posted: May 15, 2013 6:43 pm
human eye on now. burritos have been duly swallowed.
Posted: May 18, 2013 3:31 am | Edited by: Parker
Posted: May 18, 2013 2:11 pm
holy hell, had a few listens to the new record last night, and it is too good!! cannot wait to get a copy and to see the 'blivs in july!!
Posted: May 18, 2013 3:16 pm
yeah i agree it is pretty damn good. i will be needing a copy on vinyl for sure.
Posted: May 24, 2013 1:13 pm
It's May 24th.
Posted: May 24, 2013 3:15 pm | Edited by: eric o
Posted: May 24, 2013 4:29 pm
Me Gusta.
Posted: May 24, 2013 6:22 pm
Slowly coming around to it, but I definitely did not love it at first. "Woke Up in a Police Car" is so good, though. By far the best track on the album.
Posted: May 24, 2013 9:38 pm
Posted: May 25, 2013 12:45 pm
Anybody know if a download card is included? I don't live with my turntables anymore.
Posted: May 25, 2013 12:56 pm
dl included!
Posted: May 25, 2013 4:49 pm
The thing I like most about the record is that it doesn't try to forget that the last fifteen years happened. It's a lot more interesting than a simple attempt to play exactly the same kind of music that they were playing when The Oblivians originally stopped. You can definitely hear the music G, J, y E were playing in the meantime.

The low-fi sound seems a bit weird to me. While I know it's the Oblivians aesthetic, the songwriting has evolved so much I thought the sound might as well. Not a criticism...just an observation.
Posted: May 25, 2013 6:33 pm
that's right motherfucker. don't eat where you shit.
Posted: May 28, 2013 8:45 am
Blimey! This is out already? I rely on this messageboard to keep me abreast of this shit. WTF?
Posted: May 29, 2013 11:42 pm
When do the pre orders arrive?
Posted: May 30, 2013 12:58 am
This is good. I am satisfied.
Posted: May 30, 2013 9:03 am
Cool new article about the band. Still waiting on pre order.
[url=http://www.memphisflyer.com/memphis/lets-rock-and-roll-with-the-o blivians/Content?oid=3420828]

Posted: May 30, 2013 10:02 am
Cool new article about the band. Still waiting on pre order.

YEAH, NO SHIT. And if I don't get the colored vinyl, I'm getting my money back. What's the fucking point of pre-ordering if I can walk up to Goner and buy the record before it gets to my fucking house.
Posted: May 30, 2013 11:50 am
I got my pre-order yesterday, which included the new Oblivians record, new Kid Congo record and new UV Race record. Didn't have time to open or listen to any of them though. Looks like I'll have an exciting weekend.
Posted: May 30, 2013 12:42 pm
get nugged.
Posted: May 30, 2013 1:00 pm
I just remembered that I preordered the blue vinyl, then Tuesday I ordered a copy from Goner...I'm gonna have unidentical twins!
Posted: May 30, 2013 1:06 pm
YEAH, NO SHIT. And if I don't get the colored vinyl, I'm getting my money back. What's the fucking point of pre-ordering if I can walk up to Goner and buy the record before it gets to my fucking house.

Record stores in EUROPE have it already fer Christie sake!!
Posted: May 30, 2013 1:08 pm
I'm gonna walk up to the post office in 90 degree freak of nature heat (2 days ago it was 60) and see if they have it for me.
Posted: May 30, 2013 1:22 pm
I have not overplayed a record this much since, "Van Halen" got stuck in my cassette deck.
Posted: May 30, 2013 1:24 pm
^ Nice!
Posted: May 30, 2013 1:46 pm
Man it sounds good! Welcome back (?) Oblivians!
Posted: May 30, 2013 1:54 pm
Just picked it up at the post office! I got the blue.
No cool poster tho like Bajewka Joe got. Waaah
Posted: May 30, 2013 2:25 pm
Great record!
Posted: May 30, 2013 3:07 pm
needs vodka.
Posted: May 30, 2013 5:24 pm
Posted: May 30, 2013 6:19 pm
I feel an Internet meltdown coming on as this album does not include the lyrics to "pinball king" or any other songs for that matter. How am I supposed to figure these out??!!
Posted: May 30, 2013 9:31 pm

i suppose that's jack on leads? they do not stop. fave song at this moment.

call the police is there too. sounds like a play nine songs outtake.

beer. vodka. nugged.
Posted: May 31, 2013 10:44 am
my unnecessary 2 centZ: i love it. i love this band so much.
Posted: May 31, 2013 10:47 am
will you guys make collectible bobbleheads of yourselves, please?
Posted: May 31, 2013 11:02 am
The most beautiful color of blue vinyl I have ever seen.
Posted: May 31, 2013 12:04 pm
You all are killing me!
Posted: May 31, 2013 5:06 pm | Edited by: tigerblinds
I'm almost done listening to this for the first time. I think what I've been most struck by is how much Jack's songs sound like they could have been on anything...Oblivians, Gamblers, solo stuff, Tearjerkers, etc. any era. The engineering is great too totally consistent with their legacy. The whole record rocks pretty hard, I'm sure it will get knit picked on here. But it is really good.
Posted: May 31, 2013 6:00 pm
I like it so much I stuck it up in the rear widow of my car!
Posted: May 31, 2013 9:13 pm
knit picked lol
Posted: Jun 1, 2013 10:57 am
Side B is kicking my ass.
Posted: Jun 3, 2013 9:34 am | Edited by: tigerblinds
I like it so much I stuck it up in the rear widow of my car!

fo' reelez? That is love!
Posted: Jun 3, 2013 5:04 pm
I confess, I still don't have this yet, as money is a little tight.
I further confess that I haven't sent Greg his copy of the Hi-Tone show yet (will get to it a.s.a.p, Greg!)
Posted: Jun 4, 2013 8:52 pm
Just shoot me your address and I'll mail you one man. I think it's the very least that we owe you for mixing the last record. Also, Joe that is Jack singing but it's me playing guitar. Jack is playing drums and singing. A newly discovered talent!
Posted: Jun 9, 2013 9:47 pm
dtrain is on his way over here right now...with vodka!

that reminds me... it was fun listening to music at your place, d.
Posted: Jun 9, 2013 9:49 pm

that's the one.
Posted: Jun 9, 2013 10:04 pm
Posted: Jun 9, 2013 10:13 pm
It was Jenna! I have a place 10 times the size now with a better stereo set up. Bose speakers! New receiver! New Stanton cartridges! Sounds awesome. Super loud. Drives my wife crazy!
Posted: Jun 9, 2013 10:24 pm
I mean, driving my wife crazy is a success.
I on the other hand, have experienced no success.
I'm somehow cool with that!
Posted: Jun 9, 2013 10:46 pm | Edited by: bazooka joe
that is Jack singing but it's me playing guitar.

cool. an interesting method considering he's obviously capable of playing like that. really adds a lot of perspective to what actually happens.
Posted: Jun 18, 2013 3:36 pm
WFMU set is on NOW.
Posted: Jun 18, 2013 4:38 pm
please post a link to the archive when available
Posted: Jun 18, 2013 10:48 pm
Posted: Jun 19, 2013 3:37 am
thanks! i had to close tonight, afterwards i get to come home and listen to one of my all time favorite bands tear it up on the radio!!! this is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Jun 20, 2013 2:23 am
the picture on the inner sleeve, is that a motel room?
Posted: Jun 20, 2013 12:20 pm
When I first heard the 1st Crypt sampler and then Soul Food I didn't know who the hell sang each song in the Oblivians I just accepted that shit at face value. But now 18 years later I've seen them play as the Oblivians and the various other groups they've been writing and singing in. By now I know the singer by the voice, song title/theme, and I know who tucks in their shirt when they play. Roundabout internet message board way of saying that I appreciate all 3 for the different shit that they do. Favorite songs: Woke Up In a Police Car, Call The Police, Pinball King, and Run For Cover. And goddamn whoever sequenced this record put all of the best cuts right together. 2nd side isn't getting much love just yet. Gimme another 18 years, instead of a week, and I'll have a different opinion maybe.

Thanks to Mickey for calling me to tell me that the Kzoo record store had a copy in stock. I fucking refused to mail order this record. Store bought!
Posted: Jun 20, 2013 5:31 pm
i thought the same thing about side one, then i listened to it a hundred more times and decided side two is just as good. war child? incredible.

the picture on the inner sleeve, is that a motel room?
Posted: Jun 20, 2013 8:07 pm
What? No love for "Back Street Hangout"? It's vying for top spot in my brain right now.
Posted: Jun 20, 2013 9:07 pm
the whole thing is great but yeah Back Street Hangout, Em, and the title track are doing it for me right now
Posted: Jun 21, 2013 8:46 am | Edited by: tigerblinds
I'd like to make it down for the Compulsive Gamblers show...why the hell can't it be on a Saturday! Too short notice fo' me.

What got me into them was that MRR interview that came out around the time of Popular Favorites...I read that and I was like, I got to meet these spazzes and I need to get more into Angry Samoans and Lightnin Hopkins, especially his electric shit that purists don't appreciate. Those are my specific memories...later that month I was on vacation here and picked up Popular Favorites at Earxtacy. Stores in D.C. were spotty at best, I never found any all that great in Dayton either.

When I was a kid I thought they traded off instruments and singing equally all diplomatic like....Eric always plays with his shirt tucked in? I mean I knew he did it alot, but it's like a ritual?
Posted: Jun 21, 2013 8:55 am
Also I got Popular Favorites on Compact Disc like a goddamn normal human being...I don't get you vinyl freaks! You only need a turntable for 7 inches!
Posted: Jun 21, 2013 11:13 am
You only need a turntable for 7 inches!
You don't need a turntable for cd singles.
Posted: Jun 21, 2013 1:23 pm
Last I checked CD singles were too expensive for most trashgarage budgetrock bands...that was back in 1997 when music was still relevant...it's changed some?
Posted: Jun 21, 2013 2:35 pm
Well, to counter that, vinyl LPs were cheaper to purchase than full length CDs during most of the heyday of the CD, besides all the other reasons for buying them. Full disclosure - I've never bought a CD single and do not own stock in either Philips or Sony.
Posted: Jun 21, 2013 3:09 pm
Also I got Popular Favorites on Compact Disc like a goddamn normal human being...I don't get you vinyl freaks! You only need a turntable for 7 inches!

I'd kill for Sympathy Sessions on LP.
Posted: Jun 21, 2013 3:20 pm
that would be an expensive lp, considering it would be the only one in existence. personally, i would settle for the 10"s and 7", 2/3rds of which i already own...
Posted: Jun 21, 2013 3:22 pm
that would be an expensive lp, considering it would be the only one in existence.

is that right? i swore i saw one on ebay this past year sell in the $90 range.
Posted: Jun 21, 2013 9:59 pm
sympathy sessions was on CD only. its a compilation of two 10"s and a 7". it was never released on LP.
Posted: Jun 22, 2013 3:18 pm
Woke Up in a Police Car is the stand out track for me...but followed by Call the Police is pretty dang cool...yeah, great sequencing!
Posted: Jun 22, 2013 3:19 pm | Edited by: tigerblinds
Yeah Left Peg! Those were the days! 12 bucks for a cd versus 8 for a record! Damn you just reminded me what I loved about vinyl in the first place!

2 or 3 dollar 7 inches!
Posted: Jun 22, 2013 10:28 pm
yeah the first 7" i released in 1996 i sold for $3 ppd.
Posted: Jun 23, 2013 11:03 pm
Hey Brad, the bedside photo was taken by a friend, Jimmy, at a cabin in upstate NY. He had it at his apartment and I asked if I could use it. The opposite side with the double exposure of a policeman and leather jacketed cyclist at an apparent motorcycle accident was found by me years ago at a salvage store. Can't tell if it's motor oil or blood under the bike. I prefer to think that the cyclist is dead and we're looking at his ghost. Don't know why but I do.
Posted: Jun 23, 2013 11:42 pm
Also, I sequenced the record and though I tried many, this was the best for a Side 1, Side 2 listening experience. To my ears at least. Maybe there's a better way though, dunno. Some reviews have stated that it sounds very produced and some have even declared that it is fake spontaneity, employing triple tracked guitars and other slick production tricks to arrive at the sound. Nonsense. Most of these songs were tracked live. Even the vocals. Nothing is triple tracked. Everything cut in Nashville was recorded and mixed over a long weekend. I can count the songs with overdubs on one hand. We spent less time making this record than just about any other record you will hear this year. People can say what they will about whether they like it but I confess that these ridiculous assertions are irritating to me. They see Dan Auerbach's name and jump to conclusions. He wasn't even there. But his place is the shit for tracking live and I have no regrets.
Posted: Jun 24, 2013 3:30 am
fake spontaneity?

how would you even do that with studio wizardry?
Posted: Jun 24, 2013 7:45 am
I don't give a fuck if robots played the whole thing it sounds good to me. I am happy to have a new Oblivians record to listen to. Thanks Greg and guys!
Posted: Jun 24, 2013 1:22 pm
2nd side isn't getting much love just yet.

"Come a Little Closer" is my favorite jam on the dang thing!!
Love "Little War Child" too... love it all tho.
Posted: Jun 24, 2013 3:15 pm
fake spontaneity?

how would you even do that with studio wizardry?

Listen to Buddy Guy's Sweet Tea....Jimbo Mathis engineered it and he is great...but it is totally fake Junior Kimbrough style spontaneity.
Posted: Jun 24, 2013 3:20 pm | Edited by: tigerblinds
In fact along those lines I think any Black Keys record could be declared "fake spontenaity"....it's interesting that The Oblivians are being accused of that by association....especially when it's pretty damn obvious there wasn't alot of overdubbing.....is it safe to assume that 95% of people who think they know enough about music to write about it, realy don't know dick?....They should realy stick to Beach House and fake garage music.....Why doesn't anybody bother telling them realy? I pretty much think it's all bullshit now anyway...fuck it who cares?
Posted: Jun 24, 2013 3:24 pm
Black Keys are fine, but they struggle to reference Hill Country Blues in a pop format which is just awkward and gross...fuck it, sell as much as you can to the moronic masses....lets get drunk Auerbach! You like The Oblivians? I like The Oblivians too! Good times in effect!
Posted: Jun 24, 2013 3:28 pm
still dont even understand that term, or how it could relate to anything beyond if some band practiced playing some extended jam that they would perform the same way everynight and prefaced it each night by saying "We're gonna do something we've never done before..."
Posted: Jun 24, 2013 3:33 pm
yep didnt hear any spontaneity or even fake spontaneity from buddy guy on that. I just heard a dude playing guitar and singing
Posted: Jun 24, 2013 4:10 pm
i would say intentionally lo fi, overdubbing a bass guitar or unnecessary production tricks like multiple guitar tracks to fill in the sound, those would be examples of fake spontaneity. on some level the recording process itself makes spontaneity impossible, and the effort for many bands is to make it sound spontaneous and not too overproduced or perfectly played. personally, i try to leave the little mistakes in recordings and avoid "trying to sound like rush" though my band members regularly assure me there is little chance of that ever happening. hahahaha
Posted: Jun 24, 2013 4:37 pm
are we all typing about the same word...or are y'all using the more general defintion meaning voluntary?
Posted: Jun 24, 2013 11:16 pm
I on the other hand, have experienced no success.

mike, you're married to a woman you love, and who loves you, and you're building a life together. there is no other measure of success. well done!
Posted: Jun 25, 2013 12:03 am
When's the new Ghetto Ways record drop?
Posted: Jun 25, 2013 12:10 am
no, mike, don't turn my loving words around. take a hug.
Posted: Jun 25, 2013 12:23 am
Posted: Jun 25, 2013 2:54 am
"are we all typing about the same word...or are y'all using the more general defintion meaning voluntary?"

again, i do not believe its possible to be spontaneous when recording music unless you are some free form jam band or whatever, or its a live recording in front of an audience, and even then the shit is usually pretty well structured before recording and tweaking after the fact is the norm. i think especially for simple music that is driven mainly by attitude, the appearance of spontaneity is vital, and its almost always fake. it has to be!

honestly, i think its incredible that most of these songs were recorded live without overdubs, with live vocals. in this day and age that takes some serious balls, and the results speak for themselves.
Posted: Jun 25, 2013 7:30 am | Edited by: Mark Beef
thats what Im saying. The wotd "spontaneity" should never even come up in a conversation about recorded music
Posted: Jun 25, 2013 7:45 am | Edited by: tigerblinds
band practiced playing some extended jam that they would perform the same way everynight and prefaced it each night by saying "We're gonna do something we've never done before..."

You mean like KISS? The Dictators once got kicked off a tour with KISS when they opened for them with KISS' own scripted "spontaneous" stage banter....it is "showbiz" after all...you know the opposite of what punk was supposed to be?

Mark Beef if you would listen to more classic Buddy Guy, you might pick up on the difference between when he plays guitar with a mostly live band (like it was traditionaly done and supposed to be done dammit!) and then plays guitar in an isolation booth with headphones on...they are distinctly different. If you can't hear it, then I'm guessing you were never a big Guy fan for starters.

Sweet Tea was sort of like the blues establishment trying to popularize the Hill County Blues a little bit...I never did understand why someone would hand Buddy Guy a guitar and say play like Junior Kimbrough! It doesn't make any sense to me.

If you can't hear spontineity in the Buddy Guy/Junior Wells version of Marry Had A Little Lamb or something, you need to try to be more sensitive or something, I don't what to tell you.

That's the think about The Black Keys, that's why people accuse them of that shit...they are like Hall and Oats doing Junior Kimbrough songs...I love pop music, I love Hall and Oats....give me something legit and authentic damn it....listening to The Black Keys or 'Tighty Whitey Stripes', is like eating chicken that you know has been fed other chickens, which is a common practice, but I don't want to know about it damn it! It's not natural, it's awkward, it's gross...it's the shit most dumbass consumers take for granted.
Posted: Jun 25, 2013 7:49 am
Correcting my mistakes..."Hill Country Blues" and "Mary Had a Little Lamb"
Posted: Jun 25, 2013 8:02 am | Edited by: tigerblinds
Whenever someone starts harping on about "authentic" "legitimate"...it's usually smacks of fascism or like ethnic cleansing or some shit...

But you realy can have two seperate bands and tell them to reference a certain established sound....and one band will take away everything that is interesting and significant about a sound/culture, and the other will take everything that is superficial and lame..

It's the difference of farmers who are selling free range chickens, and farmers who sell legless and beakless chickens.....

Your regular normal consumer are so used to the corporate processed chickens that they can barely enjoy a chicken that has been raised on grass anymore....
Posted: Jun 25, 2013 8:26 am | Edited by: tigerblinds
You know? And it is a give take kind of deal...Howlin Wolf played frat parties with some realy shitty frat blues bands I'm sure...some of those lame frat boy players got gigs in successfull rock bands and helped grow the Howlin Wolf legend.....I mean all of those Chitlin Circuit guys wanted to get on the regular white people circuit which was realy lame by comparison...Lightnin Hopkins played for dumb ass college kids who would complain that he couldn't play guitar or even change on time...the same thing goes on now...there is an intermingling of people trying to get ahead and have a good time, so you get stuff like The Oblivians recording at The Black Keys studio (who I'm sure are great guys, and I'm sure Dan Auerbach is a realy cool professional musicians dude) and that's fucking awesome! You also get way more successfull musicians, who aren't trying to help any community, but like to reference underground music/communities because it makes good copy and gives them the illusion of "legitimacy"....they will help these bands in some ways and keep them down in others...but it doesn't realy have to be a succesfull musicians, this could be some highschool musician starting his own band, doesn't have to be some "evil big wig"...most people realy only give a shit about themselves, that's the norm, that's easy...that's fine.

The only way to discern this intermingling of cultures and corporate perspectives is if you are an "outsider" to all of the bullshit and social contexts...I'm not an "outsider," I'm out for a good time...I don't give a shit about any of this crap.....but people twenty years from now looking back on the music of today are realy "outsiders" in a way...even if you were there...you can see the realy stupid, unnecessary, unnatural shit...even if you were right there eating those fatty corporate canibal chickens....that's what keeps things balanced if anything.

Let people have their day in the sun, because the come down is a bitch...that's when shit starts to get real.
Posted: Jun 25, 2013 8:29 am
Thanks for the hug Jenna.
Seriously tho, your last album which was not sold in the US is a little on the pricy side on discogs. Especially the picture disc.
What happened to that "best of" record?

"EM" sounds like a Ghetto Ways song but I can't place which one.
Posted: Jun 25, 2013 8:38 am
It's kind of like looking back at the industrial revolution now....you look back on that shit...and people are like how could that have gone on! That was fucking disgusting! But at the time every body just took that kind of crap for granted, you know they just rolled with it....now it's offensive....back then everybody wanted to be a robber baron, and it was a robber barons right to sell food that had human parts in it, nobody questioned that. That's just how it goes....humans are a bunch of pigs fighting for a place at the farm trough...we don't realy give a shit if we are eating other pigs...I'm glad when people "make it"...they get to sit at the end of the trough and be "king pig"....I get a kick out of that....you can win a ribbon at the state fair....then you are gonna be sold to slaughter and someone is going to enjoy you in the form of bacon...and the cycle continues....it's not kosher, why the hell would anyone care about that?
Posted: Jun 25, 2013 8:54 am
Perfect example of everything you and I are talking about Brad X:

This was a great line up!
Posted: Jun 25, 2013 9:05 am
Also, I love the Sweet Tea album...I think it's interesting...but stiff as shit and "forced spontaneity"...I think sticking Buddy Guy in a regular multitrack studio was a big mistake...it sounds like a 90's record, that's obviously what they were going for....hey 90's records mostly sound like over compressed shit...Jimbo did a nice balancing act of staying inside 'modern recording sensibilities', in other words it kind of sounds like compressed shit by comparison....but yeah when someone said "forced spontaneity" that was what sprang to my mind. I'm proud of myself, I know that's a realy good example of that.
Posted: Jun 25, 2013 9:08 am
That drummer is fun!
Posted: Jun 25, 2013 9:41 am | Edited by: tigerblinds
Uh Buddy Miles? Haha....yeah Hendrix liked him.

You might be googling pig farms now and trying to figure out if they realy do feed pigs to the other pigs. Well they don't realy advertise that.....but you know if a piglet is squashed and killed or something, pigs have been known to eat it...hell pigs have been known to eat humans also (no bullshit, google that one!)....so when a pig dies on the farm, and you can't send it off to slaughter...what do you think they do with that spoiled investment? It's just the reality of the situation....deal with it...

I'm an American boy and bacon tastes goooood.......great analogy for the music industry, kudos to me.
Posted: Jun 25, 2013 9:59 am
please chop your hands off, tigerblinds
Posted: Jun 25, 2013 10:55 am | Edited by: tigerblinds
Fuck you Mark...your idiocy is never ending...we will be battling in hell.

Lets keep the analogies going, I'm the guy who tells the people who think they are at the top of their game that they realy suck...that's why I'm so popular.

Anyway sticking with The Black Keys right...I used to own a 63 Guild Thunderbird ala Fred Cole...people who know me on FB saw some pics before I sold it....before that I owned a Dearmond Jet Star which has the exact same body shape....anyway when I got the Guild I realized that the two guitars weren't similar at all...the Dearmond had a fat neck, the Guild had an elegant 60's neck....the Dearmond seemed to weigh like ten pounds more...the trend in reissues has been to beef them up so people think they are getting more of a guitar it seems like...this started with brands like Peavey sort of...your average dumb ass consumer thinks that a heavy assed beefed up guitar means they are getting more for their money....like they knocked the Danelectro reissues for being cheap pieces of shit, not realy realizing that Danelectros were always kind of cheap pieces of shit and that's part of what made them so popular, and it did have a profound effect on their sound in a good way......

Let's keep arguing Mark...I want to tell you what a fat looser you are and how I'm going to kick your ass if I ever see you face to face....or you could start trying to counter some of the very relevant points I'm making here.
Posted: Jun 25, 2013 10:56 am
Posted: Jun 25, 2013 10:56 am
You can be saying the most profound thing in the whole world, you can be making the most unique significant music in the world....and you know a fucking idiot is a fucking idiot...they will rip it off and turn it into something ugly...they will try to restate the point to someone else and make it something totally bogus.
Posted: Jun 25, 2013 10:57 am | Edited by: tigerblinds
Bazooka...The Oblivians are #1!

Sorry Mark..I just got caught up in the moment...you are a swell guy by me.
Posted: Jun 25, 2013 11:06 am
when i say " Boom, boom" you say "out go the lights"
Posted: Jun 25, 2013 11:33 am
your posts are to the english language as the military playing Metallica to prisoners in Gitmo is to music
Posted: Jun 25, 2013 12:02 pm
I did the following google search:"fake spontaneity" oblivians
This is what came up. A four star review of the record. So, while the term is actually being used positively in the review, it is based on some false assumptions about how the record was recorded and I think that's what Greg is saying he's irritated about.

Personally, I don't care how it was recorded, as I'm sure most people don't. I'm not a recording engineer. I'm just a fan and I'm just happy that the record exists and that it rocks so beautifully hard.
Posted: Jun 25, 2013 12:29 pm
Posted: Jun 25, 2013 1:04 pm
Posted: Jun 25, 2013 7:17 pm
classic, epic thread.

greg==i've heard people say they dont like the fact "desperation" is fake lo=fi or whatever the hell. i say i dont think it is and how can you tell? "i can fuckin tell. plus they recorded it at the guy from the black keys studio!"
Posted: Jun 26, 2013 8:59 am
I just like simple and direct recording methods. I don't want to watch lines and peaks stroll across a screen. I don't want to use my eyes to mix a record. Just my ears. I also like having the limitations that an 8 track machine demands. Fewer decisions means the process will not take as long. Either you played it right or you didn't. No endless tweaking. Unfortunately most of these machines are now hard to find and most reside in private studios like Dan's and Daptone. Anyway, I like using them. It's like recording at home on a cassette 8 track but with better tape compression and more low end response. No review has yet to detect that one of these songs was recorded in 1994.
Posted: Jun 26, 2013 9:55 am
I'm going with Mama Guitar
Posted: Jun 26, 2013 10:02 am
Me too. Or Desperation.
Posted: Jun 26, 2013 10:52 am
one of these songs was recorded in 1994.

whoa, really? what did i miss?
Posted: Jun 26, 2013 11:00 am
I'm going with "Mama Guitar" because the guitar tone and Greg's voice sound most like Oblivians recordings from that time. Regardless, I really like the album and am happy to get to hear new songs from one of my long-time favorite groups.
Posted: Jun 26, 2013 11:12 am | Edited by: greg O
"woke up in a police car" has a couple of audible pops right before each verse starts. It's Eric stepping on the pedestal of the mic stand as he's leaning in to sing. There's lots of little things like that we could have gotten anal about if we really did want to "over produce" this record. There are over dubs on songs. They're pretty obvious. They're meant to be. But they only enhance what was already there. There is a clue in the liner notes as to the older track.
Posted: Jun 26, 2013 11:42 am
I'm going with "Mama Guitar" because the guitar tone and Greg's voice sound most like Oblivians recordings from that time. Regardless, I really like the album and am happy to get to hear new songs from one of my long-time favorite groups.

Exactly my reasoning...sludgier, thicker guitar tone and Greg's "rockabilly voice" that I haven't really heard since the original Oblivians albums.

I wasn't a huge fan of the new album at first (and I may have even posted about it in this thread), but I really have come around to it a lot. Side one is terrific, and while I feel that side two is a little bit weaker, I can't deny the one-two smash of "Fire Detector" and "Oblivion" back-to-back. I do need to remind myself that not EVERY song on the original albums was some kind of punk-garage masterpiece, as I sometimes tend to think in my head. Glad to hear it, glad to have it, and hope there will be more.
Posted: Jun 26, 2013 11:45 am
You're going to make me read the liner notes now? Sheesh! I'm afraid of what other things I might learn.
Posted: Jun 26, 2013 12:11 pm
There's not a lot to read. You'll see it. I don't have any other place to vent as I don't post anywhere else. So, sorry for the rant. I don't care if someone doesn't like it. I just hate being misrepresented. A lot of you folks are musicians and I figured you'd understand.
Posted: Jun 26, 2013 12:52 pm
not EVERY song on the original albums was some kind of punk-garage masterpiece

sez you!
Posted: Jun 26, 2013 1:01 pm
the segue between the two police songs on side one is insane. sounded like the same song for a second, just with a pause.
Posted: Jun 26, 2013 1:25 pm
Greg, I was just kidding, vent away to your heart's content. Counting down the days until you, Jack and Eric blow our socks off in Portland.

p.s. - I'll read the liner notes when I get home from work today.
Posted: Jun 26, 2013 3:32 pm
Wasn't "Fire Detector" a Dutchmasters song (was this already discussed - I have neither the time nor energy to scan thru this mess)? I seem to recall having heard it...
Posted: Jun 26, 2013 7:51 pm
gotta say "mama guitar," i've even wondered if that was the case.
Posted: Jun 26, 2013 8:03 pm
If the clues in the liner notes is that Mama Guitar is the only song recorded by Greg alone, then that's it. Any extra Dutch Masters recordings lying around? Would love to hear more from that band.
Posted: Jun 26, 2013 9:20 pm
I know there was a Dutch Masters song on the record, I heard that somewhere, also when I first opened the record and read everything I saw that there was a song recorded in the 90's on there..but I had never heard the song before so it didn't mean anything to me at the time, but it's got to be fairly obvious...I could even look now if I wasn't half drunk and past my bed time.
Posted: Jun 26, 2013 9:22 pm
But it's funny I wound up with two of this record, and two of the new Bassholes record, but one is a test pressing so I'm bragging about it here.....
Posted: Jun 27, 2013 10:59 am
I have a killer live recording of the Dutch Masters playing Fire Detector. That same recording also has them playing Fucked Up Heart, which became a Black & Whites song (I think).

I gotta say that this album didn't do much for me on the first few listens, but at some point it clicked and now I love it. Call the Police is the song of the summer.
Posted: Jun 27, 2013 12:02 pm | Edited by: tigerblinds
That's a good summer jam....for some reason it reminds me of Staags! Noise Ordinance Rock and that was a good summer jam....

Man share that Dutch Masters!
Posted: Jun 27, 2013 12:08 pm | Edited by: tigerblinds
Maybe it's because there are alot more reasons to call the cops in the summer time!

That Staags! song starts with, "One, call the cops! Two, Complain to your landlord! Three, write to your congressman, Four, call the cops again! We can't stop, We can't stop, it's the noise ordinance rock!"
Posted: Jun 29, 2013 11:27 am
Well Oblivion is at least a few years old, it was on a split 45 with Andre Ethier (Deadly Snakes) in 2010.
Posted: Jun 29, 2013 11:19 pm
Greg that's fucking crazy that everything was recorded live even vocals. And no disrespect with the goddamn sequencing it was more a gottDAMN side 1 is fucking hot. "Em" is my new favorite and when I saw it on the sleeve I thought that you wrote an ode to the best chord: e minor. More behind the scenes all access FuseTV style questions! What's up with the drum machine intro on "Run For Cover"? Any songs from the Nashville session not make the cut for the LP? Which Trio cover do you wish you would have included on here?
Posted: Jun 30, 2013 7:28 am | Edited by: Adam K
Love the record. Missed Oblivians in Green Bay in 97(96?), Chicago during the Blackout, will finally see them in Chi in 2 weeks. STOKED.
Posted: Jun 30, 2013 5:19 pm
Which Trio cover do you wish you would have included on here?
Posted: Jul 5, 2013 7:18 pm
Pretty funny interpretation of the lyrics for "Call the Police."

Posted: Jul 10, 2013 7:42 pm
My review. I love to grill and listen to albums. I've played this one so many times that I've actually had to wipe BBQ sauce off it. I don't give a shit about " spontenaity". It's an awesome rock n roll record.
Posted: Jul 10, 2013 8:51 pm
I've actually had to wipe BBQ sauce off it.

High praise, indeed!
Posted: Jul 11, 2013 8:48 am
I don't give a shit about " spontenaity".

Yeah I just want to dance!

"There'll be coke and glue to sniff when you get home, but I won't have to watch cuz baby I'll be gone. There aint no way to know how life will treat you so let's rocknroll as we get old! We will before too long! I won't have to watch cuz baby I'll be gone!"
Posted: Jul 12, 2013 6:46 am
Bad news - still don't have this
Good news - got a new job, so, soon!
Posted: Jul 18, 2013 12:54 pm
Posted: Jul 18, 2013 12:57 pm
that's some love right there.
Posted: Jul 18, 2013 1:22 pm
http://massappeal.com/cheap-thrills-record-club-usa-1-haiku-review-the -oblivians-desperation/

"move like a panther
to the back of the barroom
for everyone's girl"

Posted: Jul 18, 2013 8:17 pm
I Love Oblivians
The man of my dreams does not
Sometimes life is crap
Posted: Jul 18, 2013 8:25 pm
I can't even fix that
edit function doesn't work
I should stop drinking
Posted: Jul 19, 2013 12:53 pm | Edited by: tigerblinds
Love Oblivians too
Like Twinkies and chucks
They will never die

Sorry about your man problems
Dating on wrong side of tracks is fun
Wear a condom
Posted: Aug 6, 2013 5:50 pm | Edited by: Jack Stands
For what it's worth, I still haven't heard this, however, I just got a paycheck.

I've only heard "Call the Police" twice, and both times were live, and when I hear it in my head my subconscious keeps throwing in AC/DC's "Dirty Deeds".

Call the boss man
Call your wife
Lock up your back door
And run for your life

The man is back in town
And does a Cajun dosey-do
Posted: Aug 6, 2013 6:32 pm
Dude, I know what broke feels like. I've been there and probably will be again. Right now I'm good. You've given me a bunch of free entertainment and it's ridiculous that you don't have this. Email me your Addy at colelewis1973@gmail.com and I'll buy it for you. It's payback sir.
Posted: Aug 6, 2013 8:22 pm
dude he said he got a paycheck. stop yourself before he doesn't have to make a steak last long enough to make tacos out of them!
Posted: Aug 6, 2013 8:54 pm | Edited by: Cole
He's a good dude. He looks like a hippie/Indian shaman. He does a lot of cool shit for Goners. He has to pay Astrid. He once sent me a IV CD, a Staggs 45, and some Velcro tape( which actually came in handy). Just sayin'. I'd hook him up.
Posted: Aug 7, 2013 10:17 am
well don't forget to give him a reacharound. he owes me one for the stickers.
Posted: Aug 7, 2013 10:21 am | Edited by: tigerblinds
He gets not a dime of my money until he stops teasing us with sexy stories about Astrid and shares some of the sweet booty, 2 dimensional or moving pictures or in the flesh.
Posted: Aug 8, 2013 12:03 am | Edited by: Cole
By hook or crook... I'm at GF every year. it's important to me.I never go all 4 days. I have 4 kids and a demanding job. Something is always in the way of my perfect vacation. I always watch the live fee,d whenever I can't go. I just really appreciatet that guy as well as Luke, and whoever makes the cool stuff happen.
Posted: Aug 8, 2013 12:11 am
Sorry for the awful grammer. Turned auto correct off.
Posted: Aug 8, 2013 10:41 am
I could appreciate Jack allot more shirtless in pasties....but he's pretty cool.
Posted: Aug 13, 2013 7:52 pm
Had been listening to this record on my phone with some dinky cheap headphones and had some criticisms I was keeping to myself. Just got it on vinyl. Sounds great, dudes. Cheers.
Posted: Aug 13, 2013 9:04 pm

Same version of the OG song but damn the video is killer. Keyboard settings maxed the fuck out!
Posted: Aug 15, 2013 6:10 am
new kickass oblivians record in 2013::?????????????%#^#@&

fuck yeah!!!!

loving it. one of the best bands of the 90s, one of the best bands EVAR
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