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Posted: Jan 18, 2012 1:00 pm | Edited by: DJ HWY 7
 
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/46041232/ns/today-books/

The epilogue was written by close friend Lisa Marie Presley.

?!
Posted: Jan 18, 2012 1:34 pm
 
Hey...that's better than being written by his close friend Eddie Vedder, who happens to own his legendary mosrite last I checked.


Still I might actually check this out, I love pizza and I love yoohoo. I can look past his friends and politics.
Posted: Jan 18, 2012 1:52 pm
 
the one time i interviewed her, she talked about Johnny!
Posted: Jan 18, 2012 2:51 pm
 
She hopes to publish another book of photos of Ramone, and hopes the book will lead to a Ramones biopic.

i will buy the book... but i reeeeeeeaaaallllyyy hope that movie doesn't end up happening.
Posted: Jan 18, 2012 3:19 pm
 
Don't get me wrong....I am sure I will read it....
Despite, or because of, some of the right-wing political leanings, I am sure there's gonna be some good stuff in there......

I (guess I) had no idea about the Lisa Marie Presley connection though.

Speaking of his Mosrite's, I once helped Brian from Portland/San Francisco's "The Punk Group" shop around the red Mosrite that Johnny played in the mid-80's.....It was signed by Johnny. Not sure who ended up buying it in the end though........
Here's a picture of Tim from The Expoxies/Suicide Notes playing said red Mosrite:

http://www.myspace.com/bourbonettes/photos/5354163#{%22ImageId%22%3A53 54163}
Posted: Jan 18, 2012 4:22 pm
 
I think the only better Johnny Ramone biography would be one written by miss linda. With epilogue written by close personal friend Taffy Davenport.
Posted: Jan 18, 2012 5:53 pm
 
my friend Steve Miller did all the work on this book, all the interviews, etc - not sure why he isn't mentioned. Seems like BS with Johnny's wife.
Posted: Jan 18, 2012 5:57 pm
 
I think the only better Johnny Ramone biography would be one written by miss linda.

I would so fuckin' buy that.
Posted: Jan 18, 2012 10:40 pm
 
Goner would so fuckin' put that out, too.

2012 project #2012.
Posted: Jan 18, 2012 10:48 pm
 
printed in china
Posted: Jan 19, 2012 8:10 am
 
Ha!
Posted: Jan 19, 2012 12:06 pm
 
God, you know how long it would take for him to write it? He'd probably get 300 pages in, decide it was stupid and that it was only be good enough for Ace Frehley to read, and throw it in a fire.
Posted: Jan 19, 2012 12:31 pm
 
my friend Steve Miller did all the work on this book, all the interviews, etc - not sure why he isn't mentioned. Seems like BS with Johnny's wife.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-16612332

It is not known whether contributions from Washington Post reporter Steve Miller, who had been collaborating with Ramone at the time of his death, will be included in the final book.
Linda Ramone said the autobiography - which she hopes will be turned into a film - consisted entirely of her husband's words.
Posted: Jan 19, 2012 1:28 pm
 
Linda Ramone

Oh man this is getting out of hand...your spouse can go by your punk name as well...wtf?
Posted: Jan 19, 2012 1:49 pm
 
If you haven't watched that tribute to Johnny documentary, don't do it. Watching the Red Hot Chile Peppers ruin Ramones songs was Alcada at best.
Posted: Jan 19, 2012 2:57 pm
 
agreed 100%. ramones raw is even better, though much of the footage is shot with a handheld camera and sounds like absolute shit. the best is the end of the century doc.
Posted: Jan 19, 2012 6:43 pm
 
t is not known whether contributions from Washington Post reporter Steve Miller, who had been collaborating with Ramone at the time of his death, will be included in the final book.

Yeah - its all Steve's work ... Maybe "Linda Ramone" should hook up with Link Wray's widow!
Posted: Jan 19, 2012 8:33 pm | Edited by: bradx
 
johnny was an asshole and stole joeys one true love, they spent all those hate filled years in a van together, joey and johnny never said a single word to each other. i think thats why they all died so young, being around such negativity all the time.
Posted: Jan 20, 2012 3:04 am
 
can you imagine the animosity of all those years as ramones, giving each other the silent treatment, holding a grudge, neither saying a single word to one another???

after johnny stole linda in the early 80s they never spoke again, johnny never even called joey to say goodbye.

After be began dating Linda Danielle, who had been seeing Joey, in the early 80's, Joey and Johnny stopped talking together. On their tour bus, they kept silent company, often passing messages back and forth through an intermediary. Linda, who later married him, survives Mr. Ramone, as does his mother, Estelle, who lives in Florida.

Mr. Ramone's silence toward Joey continued even to his bandmate's death.


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/16/arts/music/16CND-RAMO.html
Posted: Jan 20, 2012 8:31 am | Edited by: tigerblinds
 
I think Johnny and Joeys relationship was unfortunate but not all that tragic or uncommon in bands. I mean people grow apart, but when the band is the key to your network of people, or paying your bills, you tolerate eachother and trudge on. People have this idealized idea of bands being like The Monkees or something, or The Beatles in Yellow Submarine, but that's all fictional bullshit.

I mean sure Johnny stole Linda from Joey, but by the same token he married her.

I also think Johnny's politics were crude, base, and juvenile, like your typical working class republican in this country. Joey was a liberal, but Johnny and Linda both grew up in Republican homes (according to Linda)...so his loyalty to the republican party was alot like his loyalty to pizza, baseball, and yoohoo. Purely nostalgic.

Ha! and given the proven bullshit of the current Republican platform which they wheel out every election like a rotting taxidermi elephant and sing along with like a broken record, I'd go even further and say Johnny was the quintessential Republican. But still he was open minded enough to get along with weirdos like Dee Dee and Joey, because they were neighborhood kids, and became family, Joey had a single Mom who was director of a small art gallery. I mean most of Johnny's friends were flaming liberals, people say that Eddie Vedder was not only his neighbor in Cali but his best friend at the end of his life. That's just sad, but still goes to show.

I love The Ramones, I can never decide who was my favorite member, but I'll never forget when I was 16 and snuck up to the front of the crowd at an arena show in Dayton, Ohio...me and my bud kept flipping them off in immature teenage punk dork fashion doing anything just trying to get their attention....Joey mimmicked every single hand gesture we made...little did we know he was obsesseive compulsive...Johnny looked genuinely pissed the fuck off and kept flipping us off back.

It is what it is...Johnny was an Republican and Dee Dee shot up and turned tricks....the older I get the more I realize that that's the norm with people in general and not the exception. Thats' what was so great about The Ramones, they were normal dudes and didn't give a shit...didn't have to make up some fucking stupid Ziggy Stardust Fantasy to entertain the coke head Studio 54 crowd. They didn't realy give a shit about any of that noise.
Posted: Jan 20, 2012 8:36 am
 
Can I just add...fuck disco man!
Posted: Jan 20, 2012 2:26 pm
 
Johnny was a neoconservative, and it his politics were not any more interesting than those of a typical suburban republican or a Fox news commentator.
Posted: Jan 20, 2012 2:38 pm | Edited by: tigerblinds
 
Oh man...all the Republicans at the start of the bullshit 2000's supported the neo-conservatives....now "neo conservative" is this word they throw around to try and say that the atrocity that was the George W administration is behind us and it's back to traditional conservativism....fuck that shit...I call bullshit.

So either "real conservatives" let their political party get railroaded by a bunch of fantatical sociopaths, or they fucking supported them...either way it's a load of crap.
Posted: Jan 20, 2012 3:28 pm
 
All I'm realy saying is that Johnny was a Republican because his parents were Republicans, and he was probbably mostly A-political. Sure he thanked George W when they were inducted into the Rocknroll Hall of Fame or whatever, but 9/11 had just happened, he's a New Yorker, and their was a wave of blind patriotism after that.

I'm not going to play that game where people try to designate good Republicans and bad Republicans. The truth is that the corruption is non-partisan, but to say the Republican party is somehow different now than it was just 10 years ago is an insult to our intelligence and that's exactly the opinion the GOP is pushing.

I mean maybe Johnny's way of approaching politics is dangerous but hey 'welcome to the world we live in.' It's why there's so many canibalistic business men and crooks with political power. Johnny was part of a band that was made up of neighborhood kids from Queens, that's how you have to look at it, he was a big part of why they were able to function as a unit, and he contributed alot of cool shit to the world.
Posted: Jan 20, 2012 4:23 pm
 
I think Johnny and Joeys relationship was unfortunate but not all that tragic or uncommon in bands. I mean people grow apart, but when the band is the key to your network of people, or paying your bills, you tolerate eachother and trudge on.

tolerating each other is one thing, i think going for a decade and a half with a grueling tour schedule in a van and never saying a word to each other, even when joey was dying, thats unusual. they arent the type of band that probably had individual dressing rooms, ya know? watch the raw documentary, those fuckers shared some close quarters. yeah johnny married her, but he also never apologized to joey and joey never forgave him. giving him the silent treatment for all those years was just adding insult to injury.
Posted: Jan 20, 2012 5:03 pm
 
seems they were giving each other the silent treatment. if you can't get over someone "stealing your girlfriend," like, ever...that's yer problem. happens all the fuckin' time. people break up and start seeing another person from their circle or whatever. i guess since joey had her first he should've gotten to keep her. if johnny was an asshole because of that, joey was a crybaby. which is worse?

anyway, linda is the reason always given for their relationship problems, but c'mon. there was obviously a lot more too it than that.
Posted: Jan 20, 2012 5:06 pm
 
They had a good idea for about two seconds. Once Tommy left then it was all Arturo's baby.

Overrated. Altho "Acid Eaters" is cool.
Posted: Jan 20, 2012 5:16 pm
 
joey was a nut, johnny was an asshole.
Posted: Jan 20, 2012 5:17 pm
 
they both went down to berlin join the ice capades
oh i dont know why...
oh i dont know why...
Posted: Jan 20, 2012 8:39 pm
 
Tesco Vee posted this on facebook about an hour ago:

"New Johnny Ramone bio Commando was written from many hours of interviews by Steve Miller. Then his stupid twat goldigger groupie wife Linda got Rollins involved and lawyered Steve out. Now Linda is taking writing credit. No mention in Rolling Stone Or Wash Post reviews of Mr Millers contribution . Thanks gash
Posted: Jan 21, 2012 4:52 pm
 
perhaps she'll die, oh yeah x4
Posted: Jan 22, 2012 2:58 am
 
Life sucks when you have to list your occupation as "Johnny Ramone's widow." I bet she's scared shitless. Do you think if Johnny had gone first she woulda tried to suck a couple of grand out of Joey?
Posted: Jan 22, 2012 5:51 am
 
she is right now.

johnny didnt write anything.

she is sucking everything off dee dee and joey.
Posted: Jan 22, 2012 5:58 am
 
musically, in the ramones i mean. i have no idea about the book.
Posted: Jan 23, 2012 8:36 am
 
tolerating each other is one thing, i think going for a decade and a half with a grueling tour schedule in a van and never saying a word to each other, even when joey was dying, thats unusual.

Sounds like millions of married couples.

After a certain point, it's not even about The Ramones as a band, but them as individuals living the lifestyle. That's how it is with alot of iconic bands.

But yeah, I'm sure they had good days and bad days.
Posted: Jan 23, 2012 8:45 am | Edited by: tigerblinds
 
The impression that I've always gotten is that Linda always had a soft spot for Joey. Johnny was a domineering motherfucker, Joey had mental disorders and basicaly subordinate to Johnny, but in a way he needed that kind of structure. I'm not saying Johnny was an ideal leader or that he wasn't unduely heavy handed, but they were just neighborhood kids who got old together...and pretty much needed one another weather they liked it or not.

From what I can tell Arturo was a righteously cool man....and I'm glad someone brought him up. Johnny could play the cold, fatherly, meat head role because he was surrounded by all these gifted artists.

I just don't take anyone who calls themselves Republican seriously and Johnny Ramone's Republicanism doesn't bother me.

I mean there is so much damning confirmed dirt on both Bush Presidents, and then horrible, horrible things that Reagan mandated before he bacame George,Sr's pawn. Who was before that Nixon? I mean who in their right mind at this point can take Republicans seriously? It's a farce. Don't worry about Johnny Ramones politics...argue about The Clash's politics if you want, but seriously don't loose sleep over The Ramones politics.
Posted: Jan 23, 2012 10:09 am
 
I mean like most Americans I don't think Johnny Ramone gave a shit about the inevitable repercussions of Garn-St. Germain or fucking loosening regulations on American Corporations whole heartedly encouraging them to move jobs overseas...or the fucking hypocrisy of a War on Drugs, when the federal government (as would later be proven, it's a fact) were the biggest traffickers around.

Johnny just liked the idea of a Hollywood movie star for a president just like your normal, average, flawed, American. They weren't rock stars, they weren't into bullshit...they were normal fucked up New York boys....I just don't see how people can get pissed off about them.
Posted: Jan 23, 2012 3:00 pm
 
johnny must have been fairly tolerant, he let joey sing howling at the moon and bonzo goes to bitburg...
Posted: Jan 23, 2012 7:07 pm
 
Johnny was a Republican. Not some nostalgic, ill- informed, kinda conservative guy but a dyed in the wool Rebublican. And it's okay. Just because you like the way he played guitar doesn't mean you have to justify his politics to yourself. There are alot of interesting thinkers and great artists that aren't "progressive" in thier worldview.
While I probably would find very little to agree w/ politically w/ Johnny I am not gonna think his worldview was a charade anymore than I might think Celine was just a misunderstood radical. It cheapens who they were.
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 2:34 pm | Edited by: tigerblinds
 
No, the story behind Bitburg was that Johnny was pissed off that Reagan was on some "Peace Tour" in Germany...Johnny was the one behind that song....how I know this, because The Ramones changed my life when I was 12....I got into Skid Row, heard their version of Psycho Therapy, and then was a Ramones fan for life. Can't stand Skid Row, but I got a funny story about a friend who met Sebastian Bach in a porn store and drove him nuts by pretending she didn't know who he was.
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 2:37 pm
 
Yeah, The Ramones didn't research the issues or anything, well maybe Joey did...but I don't think the rest of them realy gave a fuck. Johnny just knew he hated hippies.
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 2:38 pm
 
Alright, sike...I can still dig on some Skid Row.
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 2:46 pm | Edited by: cthort
 
Bonzo was written by the German kid, the Jew, and Jean Beauvoir. Johnny made them change the title on Animal Boy.
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 2:54 pm
 
Yeah, I didn't say Johnny wrote it, I'm not sure he could read...he was behind it.
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 2:56 pm
 
This thread makes it sound like he didn't even write his "memoirs"...it wouldn't surprise me.
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 3:14 pm
 
Discussing the inspiration for the song, Ramones lead singer Joey Ramone, a Jew, explained that the president "sort of shit on everybody."[10] Interviewed in 1986, he said,

We had watched Reagan going to visit the SS cemetery on TV and were disgusted. We're all good Americans, but Reagan's thing was like forgive and forget. How can you forget six million people being gassed and roasted?[11]

Joey shares writing credit with Ramones bassist Dee Dee Ramone and Ramones producer and former Plasmatics bassist/keyboardist Jean Beauvoir.[12] Commentators on the song tend to suggest that Joey was its primary author.
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 3:15 pm
 
and howling at the moon is an obvious pro weed song, stupid video aside.
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 3:40 pm
 
Howling at the Moon is one of my favorite Ramone's songs, drug culture aside.
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 6:31 pm
 
I think Johnny knew the issues and gave a fuck. But he concluded things differently than you and I, presumably. The man didn't like taxes, didn't believe in most social programs and especially post 9/11 had a very "kill em all" mentality w/r/t foreign policy. That doesn't definitively make him dumb but did make him a Republican. "He just knew he hated hippies" might be another way to make you feel better about his politics but he was a pretty thought out conservative guy.
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 7:18 pm
 
always bears repeating...

Once we all went to see The Beatles at Shea Stadium and John(ny Ramone) brought a bag of rocks (stones) and threw them at The Beatles all night. It's amazing nobody got hurt. These were rocks as big as baseballs.
Posted: Jan 25, 2012 6:52 am
 
i wonder what johnny thought of this:

Posted: Jan 25, 2012 7:47 am | Edited by: tigerblinds
 
Come on, nobody with "kill em all mentality" has thought out jack shit. Typical fucking dumbass meathead republican....still a cool guy, but can you imagine if he had a show on Fox News? Another stupid motherfucker who talks louder not smarter.

Also I thought Johnny was Jewish also....Dee Dee was the gentile I thought.


Johnny was realy pissed at Reagan for mingling with the Germans also. I've heard his justification of the song, and I still think he was mostly behind it. Funny they should give a shit, when they all wore swastika pins.
But I'm dropping out of the debate about who wrote that song, kind of a dumb thing to debate.
Posted: Jan 25, 2012 1:45 pm
 
I can't wait to read something Ramones related that doesn't involve shooting smack, Vera, or Connie.
Posted: Jan 25, 2012 3:10 pm
 
Some of the most heartfelt and authentic things I've ever read about The Ramones came from Deborah Harry. She was 6 years older than those guys.
Posted: Jan 27, 2012 10:34 am
 
I'm GLAD John was a republican!
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!
Posted: Jan 27, 2012 10:43 am
 
You FUCKIN' HIPPIES need to go move to a Communist Country if you love Socialism so GODDAMN MUCH!!!

GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY!!!!!!!!
Posted: Jan 27, 2012 10:49 am
 
I know "Republican" needed to be capitolized, and that Communism, and Socialism are different from each other.

SO WHAT!??!!

GET THE HELL OUT!!!
Posted: Jan 27, 2012 12:05 pm
 
How do you wash your pussy?
Posted: Jan 27, 2012 12:33 pm | Edited by: misslinda
 
I lube up my HUGE DICK with AMERICAN MADE SOAP, like a TRUE PATRIOT!!! You FILTHY, DIRTY HIPPY!!!!!

GO TO NORTH KOREA, YOU STUPID, LEFTIST SCUMBAG!!!!!
Posted: Jan 27, 2012 12:38 pm
 
I'll buy you a one way ticket!!!

GET OUT!!!!
Posted: Jan 27, 2012 1:17 pm
 
I hate communism...I got a huge fucking American flag tattoo...don't fuck with me toots.
Posted: Jan 27, 2012 1:27 pm | Edited by: tigerblinds
 
I mean when you consider how many of our major corporations are based in China, that argument is realy dumb. Uh yeah, I could go to China and schmooze with the rest of the rich American fucks strangling our economy to death, and Reagan is the one who created the situation. We can debate this if you want, but to be honest I hate communism, but I liked the economic safeguards that were there to prevent another fucking depression...or like facilitated the little guys being able to come up in the system.

I mean soap is the only thing you can get U.S. made anymore, because it's one of the few things easy enough to make ourselves if you want.
Posted: Jan 27, 2012 1:31 pm | Edited by: tigerblinds
 
Also by the way, I lube my largeish dick up with fucking Walmart soap made by child laborers in some other country, because I'm a typical poor broke American bastard getting shit on by my government. Thanks very much.
Posted: Jan 27, 2012 1:36 pm
 
Tattoos are for Hippies trying to look "cool".
Posted: Jan 27, 2012 1:37 pm
 
don't fuck with me toots.

Eat my AMERICAN MADE SHIT, HIPPIE!!
Posted: Jan 27, 2012 1:41 pm
 
The Ramones are probably the best Rock-n-Roll band ever, but I can't stand their fans.

D-U-M-B !
Posted: Jan 27, 2012 1:43 pm
 
Stop it you're giving me a boner.
Posted: Jan 27, 2012 2:26 pm | Edited by: misslinda
 
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
GOD BLESS PRESIDENT BUSH!!!
Posted: Jan 27, 2012 3:55 pm
 
Tattoos are for Hippies trying to look "cool".
Posted: Jan 27, 2012 3:58 pm
 
Well yeah, I'm the coolest kid on the block with my tattoo of a buzzard smoking a joint.
Posted: Jan 27, 2012 4:00 pm
 
sike.
Posted: Jan 27, 2012 4:52 pm
 
Disappointing to hear that Steve is getting jobbed by Linda on this thing. Unless she has a change of heart, I won't be buying it. Fucking over a fellow Lansingite is highly frowned upon. Maybe Doc Dart can post some signs in his yard to protest?
Posted: Jan 27, 2012 6:17 pm
 
Well yeah, I'm the coolest kid on the block with my tattoo of a buzzard smoking a joint.

that's not what buzzards look like...

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRzjJkwoIMBtRU1OrKj1sWMfIqDfo- xzjZLWxhRAIlKCKcZ57e-gw

... or joints.
Posted: Jan 28, 2012 12:33 pm
 
Disappointing to hear that Steve is getting jobbed by Linda on this thing. Unless she has a change of heart, I won't be buying it. Fucking over a fellow Lansingite is highly frowned upon. Maybe Doc Dart can post some signs in his yard to protest?

Don't understand your "Hippie Jargon", and DAMN PROUD OF IT!!

GOD BLESS CONSERVATISM!!!
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!!!!!
Posted: Jan 30, 2012 8:03 am | Edited by: tigerblinds
 
Ha, a dolphin smoking a bong is way cooler than a buzzard smoking a joint. Seriously, I thought I was badass in junior high when I got an indian ink tattoo of Bart Simpson smoking a ciggarette. Sike.
Posted: Jan 31, 2012 11:52 am
 
Live 1975 -- Arturo was running the show!

Posted: Jan 31, 2012 1:03 pm | Edited by: tigerblinds
 
I got a "Disco Sucks" tattoo.
Posted: Jan 31, 2012 1:16 pm
 
sike
Posted: Jan 31, 2012 5:12 pm
 
Posted: Jan 31, 2012 5:25 pm
 
YES!!
CAPITOLISM IS WHAT MAKES THIS COUNTRY GREAT!!!!!
Posted: Jan 31, 2012 5:31 pm
 
GOD BLESS THE FREE MARKET!!!!
GOD BLESS FREE ENTERPRISE!!!!!
GOD BLESS JOHNNY RAMONE!!!!!!

You fucking hippies need to pay more taxes if you think the government is supposed to hand you everything!!!!!
Posted: Jan 31, 2012 5:56 pm
 
Would he have approved of this? http://walyou.com/ramones-lego-punk-rock-legends/

I did not know that Lego made pink mohawks and syringes. Awesome.
Posted: Jan 31, 2012 6:54 pm | Edited by: misslinda
 
Do they make a Lego Ronald Regan?

GODDAMN, I LOVE AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Jan 31, 2012 6:57 pm
 
I need to find some red, white, and blue condoms!

GOD BLESS MY AMERICAN PENIS!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Feb 1, 2012 7:46 am | Edited by: tigerblinds
 
Misslinda, the government is supposed to keep peoples body parts from showing up in my beenyweenies ya twat...that's all us hippies are asking for.
Posted: Feb 1, 2012 7:51 am | Edited by: tigerblinds
 
Or how about making sure our veterans don't get shit on when they get back....wow, is that realy so fucking controversial. Us hippies just think the government should be looking out for the people, and not the rich 8% motherfuckers.

Fuck man...I know you're just realy upset you can't pee standing up, but jesus tits.
Posted: Feb 1, 2012 7:56 am | Edited by: tigerblinds
 
You probbably take that shit for granted, but realy it's the hippies that are maintaining alot of the programs that the conservative dummies enjoy, and the conservative leaders would like to take away. The rich 8% don't give a fuck about your silly punk ass baby...they didn't give a fuck for Johnny either, a fucking fool. Us liberals tolerate you.
Posted: Feb 1, 2012 8:02 am
 
Look at Walter Reed, all Republican leaders give a shit about is the industrial war complex...they could give a shit about the men and women who get injured or die.....fuck rats were shitting on them.


I'm sure you like the rest of the poor dumb suckers in the Republican Party don't understand what Walter Reed represents to military men....well why don't you look it up ya dumb shit.
Posted: Feb 1, 2012 9:03 am | Edited by: tigerblinds
 
The problem with conservatives is that they talk like they're experts, but don't realy know shit about American history....you ever heard of the Bonus Army? Veterans of WWI, many of whom had received no compensation whatsoever for their service...had no fucking place to go, so they took their families and camped out in D.C....Hoover's administration told them to fuck off....read all about it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army


You know we have the FDA because the industrialists with their corporate monopolies in the 30's had no regard for the regular man and people were dying on the clock from poor worker conditions and they were fucking poisoning the public with their bullshit products...body parts were showing up in peoples canned green beans. There were no fucking industry standards and the fucking robber barons { http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robber_baron_(industrialist) } couldn't give a shit. Eventualy FDR had to establish the FD&C which later became the FDA. Fucking teabaggers want to get rid of the FDA all together, so did Ronald Reagan, that's why he provided ample ways for them to circumvent the laws, one of which was moving corporations over seas where they didn't have to worry so much about worker conditions and could take advantage of cheap child labor.

I mean the teabaggers want to get rid of the FDA now because it's usefullness at this point in history is questionable, if you are a pharmacuetical business and have a new drug that could save lives and it's not being approved right away, chances are because there's another company standing in the way....they speed threw shit they shouldn't and hold up shit that could serve the common good. That's big politics in this country. But would you rather take your chances with no regulations like we had in the 30's, or reform the actual good things that our government has done? Fuck, I don't feel like starting over from scratch, that's why the teaparty are so fucking ludicrous....and honestly who would a free market benefit, the small business or the robber barons? The whole political discourse is an insult to humanity.

Just how it is at this point, what is bullshit to me is that I even have to be the one to break it down for your dumb ass.
Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:49 am
 
Wow...just surfed on this....Congressman Allan West talking on Sunday...it's uncanny, there's a war on against common sense in the country.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/01/29/allen-west-obama-dems-need-to-ge t-the-hell-out-of-america/
Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:53 am
 
Just how it is at this point, what is bullshit to me is that I even have to be the one to break it down for your dumb ass.


You don't have to spoon feed me anything, History Nerd.

I don't give a shit!
I don't want to know your qualifications for being a "Human Relations" Instructor, either.
Posted: Feb 1, 2012 11:01 am
 
I wish I was a sales rep,or even a Lobbiest, for a big name Pharmacudiceutical Company.
Fuck People! Fuck The A.C.L.U.!!!!!

God Bless The Free Market!!!!!
God Bless America!!!!!
Posted: Feb 1, 2012 12:18 pm
 
John Cummings was a draft dodger. Just sayin'
Posted: Feb 1, 2012 12:21 pm | Edited by: misslinda
 
That's big politics in this country.

Big Politics/ Big Government is mostly the Democratic Party.
Why are you so egocentric that you can't understand that Johnny Ramone might have different political views than you? Because you're small minded, and regergitate all the liberal garbage that SOME OTHER FOOL TOLD YOU. THAT'S WHY "COLLEGE BOY".

You're probably surrounded by leftests, and have a huge need to "fit in". Group Think Victim!
Posted: Feb 1, 2012 12:56 pm
 
Posted: Feb 1, 2012 1:52 pm
 
Uh yeah, we started out this thread with me defending Johnny Ramone in spite of his politics...

When it comes to politics he was a dumbass, my argument was that he was just a regular dumbfuck who didn't think to hard about much of anything, like the rest of Americans who voted for George W...and guess what they got what they deserve....the rest of us are fucking fed up with it.


As far as me being surrounded by liberals, well I try.
Posted: Feb 1, 2012 2:08 pm
 
I'm surrounded by them too, but I don't have to agree with them.
Sorry I projected on you. I have alot of "baggage" from hanging out with too many extreme leftest. NOT ANYMORE!!!!
Posted: Feb 1, 2012 2:27 pm
 
I don't hang out with any extreme leftists....I hang out with normal people who call a spade a spade. Most would be considered moderates....and the best thing about Democrats is that they're not the fucking Republicans.
Posted: Feb 1, 2012 2:39 pm
 
American politics are just a clusterfuck anyway, no need to apologize.
Posted: Feb 1, 2012 3:26 pm | Edited by: tigerblinds
 
I spend most of my time wondering why americans don't get over their inferiority complex, grow a backbone and expose some of the behind the scenes people who direct the political discourse in the country....because it's all just a smoke screen.

I don't tote any party lines, I hate the tendency in democrat politicians to mandate new programs as a silver bullet to problems, just throw money at them and expect it to get fixed. Because money doesn't realy fix shit and at this point we have no money; good qualified people fix shit. It's all bullshit, they all protect their own asses and that's it....neither party could realy give a shit about the common good.

All I realy care about is justice, or some accountability would be nice.
Posted: Feb 1, 2012 3:34 pm
 
people who call a spade a spade

RACIST!
Posted: Feb 1, 2012 10:25 pm
 
Gayest thread ever.
Posted: Feb 2, 2012 10:00 am
 
people who call a spade a spade

RACIST!



Oh okay...let me rephrase that; the only good pig is a dead pig.
Posted: Feb 6, 2012 1:53 am
 
i think thats why they all died so young, being around such negativity all the time.

http://naturalsociety.com/are-negative-thoughts-cutting-lifespan-in-ha lf/
Posted: Feb 6, 2012 2:10 am
 
Gayest thread ever.

HOMOPHOBE!!!!!!
Posted: Feb 6, 2012 2:52 am | Edited by: misslinda
 
I wish Johnny would have kicked out Joey when Doug left. Lemmy would have been a better replacement for both of those LOOSERS!!!!

GOD BLESS ENGLAND!!!!!!
GOD BLESS CRYSTAL METHAMPHETAMINE!!!!!!!
GOD BLESS LEMMY RAMONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Feb 6, 2012 3:04 am
 
R.Halford (Robby) Ramone on vocals, and Capt. Sensible (Burnsy) Ramone would have been acceptable also.
Posted: Feb 6, 2012 3:09 am
 
if johnny had an ounce of talent he never woulda been in a band with those guys to begin with. never wrote a song, just played barre chords to some tunes written by a couple junkie/jew/commie/faggots.

i like the part of the lemmy doc where he keeps bringing up how he and his son slept with the same women, in front of his son. cringe inducing.
Posted: Feb 6, 2012 3:10 am
 
remember gil ramone? (gottfried)

he was the only ramone that mattered.
Posted: Feb 6, 2012 3:12 am
 
Especially if they wore some of Marky's wigs!
Posted: Feb 6, 2012 3:18 am
 
I only listen to KISS
Posted: Feb 6, 2012 3:21 am
 
kiss suck
Posted: Feb 6, 2012 3:25 am
 
Dee Dee is only Ramone that matters to me. They should have been called "The Dougettes" as far as I'm concerned. I just don't like tigerblinds (faggotass pussy) putting down my favorite guitar player. RESPECT HIS POLITICS, HIPPY FAGGOT!!!!!!
Posted: Feb 6, 2012 3:33 am
 
if johnny had an ounce of talent

You can't play guitar like that! YOU CAN'T EVEN WALK AROUND YOUR YARD!!!

Do you even own a guitar? I know you own a stupid bible.
Posted: Feb 6, 2012 3:39 am
 
Oh okay...let me rephrase that; the only good pig is a dead pig.

you misspelled "tigerblinds"
Posted: Feb 6, 2012 3:41 am
 
You know we have the FDA because the industrialists with their corporate monopolies in the 30's had no regard for the regular man and people were dying on the clock from poor worker conditions and they were fucking poisoning the public with their bullshit products...body parts were showing up in peoples canned green beans. There were no fucking industry standards and the fucking robber barons { http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robber_baron_(industrialist) } couldn't give a shit. Eventualy FDR had to establish the FD&C which later became the FDA. Fucking teabaggers want to get rid of the FDA all together, so did Ronald Reagan, that's why he provided ample ways for them to circumvent the laws, one of which was moving corporations over seas where they didn't have to worry so much about worker conditions and could take advantage of cheap child labor.

I mean the teabaggers want to get rid of the FDA now because it's usefullness at this point in history is questionable, if you are a pharmacuetical business and have a new drug that could save lives and it's not being approved right away, chances are because there's another company standing in the way....they speed threw shit they shouldn't and hold up shit that could serve the common good. That's big politics in this country. But would you rather take your chances with no regulations like we had in the 30's, or reform the actual good things that our government has done? Fuck, I don't feel like starting over from scratch, that's why the teaparty are so fucking ludicrous....and honestly who would a free market benefit, the small business or the robber barons? The whole political discourse is an insult to humanity.



what a nerd
Posted: Feb 6, 2012 3:49 am
 
YOU CAN'T EVEN WALK AROUND YOUR YARD!!!


kiss suck.
Posted: Feb 6, 2012 3:50 am
 
dee dee and joey were the only ones that mattered. anybody could have played the guitar and drums.
Posted: Feb 6, 2012 3:57 am | Edited by: misslinda
 
GOD BLESS DEE DEE RAMONE!!!!!!
GOD BLESS CRYSTAL METHAMPHETAMINE!!!!!!!!
Posted: Feb 6, 2012 3:58 am
 
fuck god.
Posted: Feb 6, 2012 4:06 am
 
GOD BLESS MY RED, WHITE , AND BLUE PENIS!!!!!!
Posted: Feb 6, 2012 8:30 am | Edited by: tigerblinds
 
Wow misslinda, someone was starved for attention this weekend.

Uh Lemmy and Rob Halford are both big time liberals. They're not like interested in perpetuating the welfare state or anything, but they're into human rights and shit...just consider Halford is gay and Lemmy, like most of us, prefers to keep company with black chicks when he can get em.


You may call my love of knowing shit, especially historical shit, nerdy; but I just like to think of it as me not being a complete moron...you know, unlike you, a bonafide certified complete moron and proud of it...
Posted: Feb 6, 2012 11:52 am
 
I don't wanna go down to the basement.
Posted: Feb 13, 2012 3:57 am
 
yOU MISPELLED "MOOROON" YOU FAGGOT ASSED , PIECE OF SHIT, SON OF A BITCH MOTHERFUCKING, WALKING GARBAGEBAG!!!!!

I ATE SOME GREEN BEANS TODAY, RIGHT AFTER I BURNT MY MY IDIOTIC HUMAN RELATIONS TEXT BOOK THAT YOU PLAGERIZED IN AN ATT3MPT TO PROOVE WIT.
TELL YO MOMMA'S JR. HIGH TEACHIN'S VAGINA I SAID "TRIM IT !!!!" YOU PSUDO SMART DUMMIE!
I TOO DUM TO ARGUE WITH YOU ON GONNER BOARD. TOO MUCH STRAW MAN TECHNIQUE FOR JOHN TO BE JUSTIFIED FOR NOT BEING LIBERAL FAGGOT!!!!!!!!

Please die tomorrow,
Not your friend,
misslinda
Posted: Feb 13, 2012 4:09 am
 
Uh Lemmy and Rob Halford are both big time liberals.

YOU ARE A TWIT!!!!
Posted: Feb 13, 2012 4:15 am
 
...just consider Halford is gay and Lemmy, like most of us, prefers to keep company with black chicks when he can get em.


NERD!
Posted: Feb 13, 2012 4:19 am | Edited by: misslinda
 
"you" !!!!

Black chicks.....where they at!!!!!!!!
NOT IN PORTLAND YOU WHITE ASS FAGGOT!!!!!!!
WHERE YO' LIBERAL ASS?!?!?!?
Posted: Feb 13, 2012 8:30 am | Edited by: tigerblinds
 
Ha ha...I am in Portland as a matter of fact, but that's just the name of the white ghetto where I live.
Posted: Feb 19, 2012 3:50 am
 
I'm pretty much kidding with you, at the risk of Dtrain calling me gay again. offence intended.
Posted: Feb 19, 2012 3:52 am
 
Concervative retoric is easy to spout out.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Feb 19, 2012 3:55 am
 
I'm pretty much kidding with you, at the risk of Dtrain calling me gay again. offence intended.
Posted: Feb 19, 2012 9:59 pm
 
Miss Linda=gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
Posted: Feb 20, 2012 9:57 am | Edited by: tigerblinds
 
MissLinda, if you want to tell me you're kidding with me, email me personaly...I liked the thing we had going.
Posted: Feb 24, 2012 1:33 am
 
just started reading the beginning excerpt chapter on amazon. pretty fucking great so far!

The first time we played CBGB's, Alan Vega from Suicide came up and told us that we were the band that he had been waiting for and he couldn't believe how great we were. I told Dee Dee, "Look, we fooled someone. Maybe we can fool other people." Every time we had a new fan in those early days, I'd say, "Fooled another one."

definitely gonna read this.
Posted: Feb 24, 2012 11:58 am
 
^^^
so he had no self-respect either. No wonder he was a Republican.
Posted: Mar 25, 2012 10:19 pm
 
Please die tonight.

ty
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