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Posted: Oct 5, 2010 7:22 pm | Edited by: pseudo pion
 
Posted: Oct 5, 2010 7:36 pm
 
Well, that's disappointing. Too many years in a small town in Georgia or something, I guess...

It's truly laughable what Americans consider "left-wing" or "socialist" these days...

Come on, Moe...you're smarter than that...aren't you?
Posted: Oct 6, 2010 12:29 am
 
wow, she's ugly.
Posted: Oct 6, 2010 6:21 am
 
A friend of mine loaned her his floor tom for a show one time. Wasn't the VU though it was some other band she was in.
Posted: Oct 6, 2010 8:57 am
 
wow, she's ugly.

dude, she's 65 years old. She wasn't exactly Vanessa Redgrave in the VU days either.
Posted: Oct 6, 2010 10:12 am
 
I understand the patriots over at the Georgia Tea Party loved her rendition of "White Light/White Power."
Posted: Oct 6, 2010 3:53 pm
 
"I'm furious about the incredible waste of money when things that we really need and are important get dropped because there's no money left.""

give me a fucking break. yeah, she is right but in all the wrong ways. number one waste of money: our so called defense budget, and until the teabaggers start rallying against that i will consider them nothing more than a hypocritical grassroots fundraising arm of the GOP. smaller government? great! end the war on drugs. i dont hear them rallying for that freedom either, the freedom to ingest what we want in our own bodies. the tea party makes great arguments to persuade the simple, but they ignore the elephants in the room. the tea party faithful are all ignorant fools who have legitimate anger and fear at a shitty and uncertain economy and future, but they are directing all their energy towards something that will ultimately work against their own interests. if anything, the vast majority of teabaggers would benefit from obama being MORE socialist, not less. he is a corporatist, and is not changing anything in any meaningful way, and likely is contributing to leading our country to destruction, but hey, would mccain really be doing any better? hell, considering the morass we are in, could ANYBODY really be doing any better? there are no easy answers here.

she was a shitty drummer in a great band, i dont understand why anyone would have thought she possessed a brain... what next, doug ingle a libertarian? whatever! who cares???
Posted: Oct 6, 2010 3:57 pm
 
here is a nice page showing how those fiscally conservative presidents reagan, george bush sr, and george w bush all presided over double digit percentage increases in the national debt, while carter and clinton brought it down. the last republican not to increase the debt was richard nixon. they have some sort of weird doublethink however, that all "defense" spending is nessecary and untouchable...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms
Posted: Oct 6, 2010 4:52 pm | Edited by: Uptight White
 
Perhaps life experience affected her politics or she just liked making some racket with the VU and was apolitical like most kids. It makes sense that some counter culture type's abandoned the democratic party as it transitioned from the 1960's anti-war, pro-working class liberalism and morphed into the 1990's-2000's pro-globalization/pro-identity politics of post-modern liberalism/cosmopolitanism because it no longer addressed their personal needs.

The Tea Party folks are publicly advocating for their own interests, which is fine with me, but they don't quite address the most important issues. I'm amused so many with differing views are bothered by their hyperbole when the left has practically taken all the piss out of their favorite term Trotsky term (racist) because of it's over-use over the last couple of years.
Posted: Oct 6, 2010 5:24 pm
 
SMASH THE STATE!
Posted: Oct 7, 2010 9:38 am | Edited by: tigerblinds
 
Who cares...I want to know which side Dave Thomas votes on?

I don't need a cure, I need a final solution.
Posted: Oct 7, 2010 9:44 am
 
The Tea Party folks are publicly advocating for their own interests, which is fine with me, but they don't quite address the most important issues.


I never get tired of seeing all the white trash teabaggers in my working class neighborhood with American Flags hung upside down...fucking anarchy!
Posted: Oct 7, 2010 6:37 pm
 
Who cares...I want to know which side Dave Thomas votes on?

He is a Jehovah's Witness, but I don't really know their voting habits
Posted: Oct 7, 2010 7:42 pm | Edited by: Will
 
i'd probably have a little more tolerance for teabaggers if:

1) i didn't get the distinct impression that they are being led by the nose by faux-fiscal conservative astro-turfing groups like Dick Armey's FreedomWorks - who are exploiting a justifiably angry, but sadly ignorant (and i don't mean that offensively) voting sector to push their undemocratic domestic and foreign agendas.

2) they didn't march around carrying the mantle of "less government" when it seems most are totally ok with the govt telling gay people they can't get married, or Muslims when and where they can build houses of worship. seriously guys? the cognitive dissonance must be a bitch.

3) they would actually let me dip my balls in their mouths
Posted: Oct 7, 2010 9:00 pm
 
but I don't really know their voting habits


apolitical but deferential if that makes sense

midwest-y deeds goes to town illiterate populism i'd bet if scratched

i know thomas: he's right wing towards feminism, anti authoritarianism, and obliquely socially dissonant from his avant art posturings of his rad 70's art

in other words, as with ms tucker, who the fuck cares what any musician has to say about anything, esp anything that concerns life?
Posted: Oct 8, 2010 8:53 am
 
Doug McKenzie? I didn't think Canadians were allowed to vote.
take off
maybe your talking about the Wendys Dave Thomas -- wasn't 'wheres the beef?' a Mondale line?
Posted: Oct 8, 2010 9:01 am
 
I'm an antagonistic liberal...everyone watch out. Teabaggers especially, your lips are too swollen already.
Posted: Oct 8, 2010 12:50 pm
 
He is a Jehovah's Witness

He is a dead, too.
Posted: Oct 8, 2010 1:08 pm
 
He is a dead, too.


??
Posted: Oct 8, 2010 1:09 pm | Edited by: tigerblinds
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Thomas_(musician)

Realy he's dead? No more Rocket From The Tombs reunions?


Oh Wendy's Dave Thomas is dead...this thread keeps getting better and better.
Posted: Oct 8, 2010 3:23 pm
 
Cheetah is really left-wing, I think that the Rocket From the Tombs reunions are probably pretty tense. Richard Lloyd is born-again too, I think.

I got confused for a second. I thought we were talking about "the other" Dave Thomas. From Wendy's.
Posted: Oct 8, 2010 3:34 pm
 
Matt Taibi has a good take on the Tea Baggers
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/210904
Posted: Oct 8, 2010 4:02 pm
 
who the fuck cares what any musician has to say about anything, esp anything that concerns life?

I agree.

the only political thing I ever heard/saw Iggy say was:

"I'm so happy about Reagan getting elected. No more pussy Jimmy Carter"

other than that, he's been quite loquacious --- about CULTURE
"this whole country is scared of failure"
Posted: Oct 8, 2010 4:32 pm
 
"I'm so happy about Reagan getting elected. No more pussy Jimmy Carter"

Yeah, there's a real intellect right there.
Posted: Oct 8, 2010 4:39 pm
 
cheetah is actually a grassroots-y left wing activist who appears (through a deeply partisan lens, natch) to be well versed on a range of socio-economic topics. not to mention his incessant, funny anti-t-baggin vitriol.

i saw rocket three times . never saw palpable tension, on or off stage

i like thomas when he lacks a soapbox: he's very funny, very bright. about women he's bradx when bradx is wearing his faux sackcloth (leopard undies). ugh


as for dear richard: he is best friends/teacher of my two best friends and the times we chatted he never seemed re borned, at least in the way of the ugly mid 70's dogmatic evangelicals who swore jesus was walking down delia avenue in west akron by the 90's.

he IS a deeply spiritual man--if someone can say that without a trace of GB irony, and why not?--and smarter than a lot of us:

http://www.richardlloyd.com/apages.htm
Posted: Oct 8, 2010 7:46 pm
 
Matt Taibi has a good take on the Tea Baggers

Great line:

the Republicans managed to get back in the game anyway by plucking an assortment of nativist freaks, village idiots and Internet Hitlers out of thin air and training them into a giant ball of incoherent resentment just in time for the 2010 midterms
Posted: Oct 8, 2010 9:25 pm
 
That Rolling Stone piece was great, too bad they can't stay as relevant musically.
Posted: Oct 9, 2010 2:38 pm | Edited by: Joe Pestilence
 
WWJFD?

(What Would Jad Fair Do?)
Posted: Oct 9, 2010 8:21 pm
 
she was a shitty drummer in a great band

I don't know, look at the restraint in songs like "The Ocean". Something is to be said there, it's well documented that she was an amateur, but it's astonishing how well it always fit.

It's also well documented that Maureen was always a conservative, even back then.
Posted: Oct 10, 2010 2:32 pm
 
Andy Warhol on Ronald Reagan: "I met someone who said wasn't it great that we're going to have a movie star for president,that it was so Pop.And when you think about it like that,it IS great. It's so American."

Hmmmm...
Posted: Oct 10, 2010 2:35 pm
 
janderass, i agree with your sentiment, but that doesnt make her any less shitty of a drummer. for example, i love supercharger, obviously karens drumming fits their style better than some keith moon wannabe, it doesnt make her any less a shitty drummer. i could say the same for many other bands and drummers.
Posted: Oct 10, 2010 7:18 pm
 
fitting perfectly in your band transcends having "talent."
Posted: Oct 11, 2010 12:34 am
 
i agree. she is still shitty. shitty shitty shitty moe tucker, fitted perfectly in her band. she didnt have no talent but she was shitty shitty shitty and fit in perfectly.
Posted: Oct 11, 2010 12:40 am
 
tub thumping tea bagger...
Posted: Oct 11, 2010 12:17 pm
 
Moe ruled in the Velvet Underground, and was the perfect drummer.
Posted: Oct 12, 2010 3:55 pm
 
Moe Tucker is a tea bag party supporter


so what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Oct 14, 2010 5:07 pm | Edited by: Will
 
this is pretty exhaustive statement (with links!) detailing a lot of the reasons why i, even as an avowed independent who has voted R, D, and I, won't be supporting any GOP candidates in the 2010 election.

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/a/m/americandad/2010/0 3/an-open-letter-to-conservative.php
Posted: Oct 15, 2010 8:53 am
 
Posted: Oct 15, 2010 11:42 am
 
i guess it's too bad the new yorker, tpm and rolling stone are "liberal, fascist, communist, mao-ist" cum-rags that "real" Amurcans can't be bothered with.
Posted: Oct 15, 2010 7:24 pm
 
i guess it's too bad the new yorker, tpm and rolling stone are "liberal, fascist, communist, mao-ist" cum-rags that "real" Amurcans can't be bothered with.

"Real Amurcans" don't read anyways.
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