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Posted: Oct 17, 2008 10:57 am
The weather's perfect for it.
You should go.
Posted: Oct 17, 2008 11:11 am
Camping. One of recreations greatest lies.

Stay home. Walk around the block. Go to the park. Sleep in your own bed.

Fire pits are cool. But the rest is senseless unless there's a roof over your head.
Posted: Oct 17, 2008 11:12 am
Posted: Oct 17, 2008 11:36 am | Edited by: Whiskey Bent
The weather's perfect for it.

YES!!! I have never been camping where swimming wasn't the #1 form of recreation -- wait -- I mean 2nd.

1. Boozing with friends
2. Swimming
3. Bulding the fire (and watching it, kicking it around and cooking on it) - LOVE IT!

Mushrooms could rank high on that list as well
Posted: Oct 17, 2008 11:44 am
Let me outline this instead:

1. Boozing with friends
a. Kahlua in coffee for breafast
b. Beer all day
c. Whiskey all night

2. Swimming
a. After breakfast
b. After lunch
c. Late afternoon

3. Bulding the fire
a. Build fire pit as soon as you get your tent set up
b. Light fire for (BIG STEAK) dinner
c. Kick the fire all night to keeo it going good
d. Stare at it all night long
e. Mmmm burnt marshmellow smores
f. Fall asleep in your tri-fold loung chair
g. Wake up freezing when it goes out
Posted: Oct 17, 2008 11:55 am
all of which (except for g.) can be done anywhere anytime WITH showering and TV within close proximity.
Posted: Oct 17, 2008 12:40 pm
kick stands, is this your way of telling your wife that the unemployment office isn't gonna pay your mortgage?
Posted: Oct 17, 2008 12:41 pm
Vote now --- WHO has fallen into the fire pit??

In Cali, we got the altitude (that's right, we can get real high).
so, average camping trip goes like:

1. Bomb out of work
2. Suffer thru major traffic jam thru sprawl on way to foothills
3. Finally hit foothills, stop at supermarket, buy steaks, can of beans, schmore fixings and 1.75 l bottle of whiskey.
4. Hit winding mtn road, goin' up! 6000 feet.
5. Find the last campsite, the one next to the christian RV'ers. Time for an arrival smoke! Admire nature's beauty. Think about poor wretches stuck in the city.
6. Start cocktail hour as RV'ers are firing up their generator to watch videos.
7. Set up tent, start fire, more cocktails
8. Hit bottle a few times waiting for coals to glow
9. Get personal glow - fire it up -- more whisky!
10. Cook steaks, drink 4 beers
11. Eat steaks and beans out of can. 2 more beers.
12. Afterdinner whisky
13. Grab hatchet, go tell RV'ers it's quiet time, shut down that generator NOW
14. Chop wood, avoid cutting off toes. Fire up bowl.
15. Put bottle next to lawn chair next to fire
16. Schmores!
17. Dregs of bottle
18. Get up out of chair, fall into fire
19. Admire stars from prone position, ignoring singed feeling
20. Hit tent, realize you have forgotten your sleeping bag. Freeze all night - Damn it's cold up in those mtns
Posted: Oct 17, 2008 12:51 pm
WHO has fallen into the fire pit??

Negative (so far).

Dood!! I want to go camping with you: Well 5.5 down (minus eating beans out of a can -- I LOVE preparing for the BIG lumberjack dinner).
Posted: Oct 17, 2008 12:53 pm
jesse, you're camping in california and ther's no fishing in your list? i have a feeling you're talking about the sierras, right? either way, TROUT.
Posted: Oct 17, 2008 2:05 pm
Make sure you bring a Mt. Dew Cube and some hair gel camping because camping is in tents.
Posted: Oct 17, 2008 3:38 pm | Edited by: bradx
camping is ok once in a while, especially for people who live in big cities or apartment buildings, but for me it doesnt make a whole lot of sense. our yard is bigger than a campsite and with more privacy, we have a fire pit and live only a couple miles from one of the largest lakes on earth. the only thing i really like about camping is the long drive "up nort" and getting away for awhile but really its not anything otherwise i couldnt experience right in my backyard. i mean, people travel hundreds of miles just to come near here to camp, i should rent out the backyard as a couple campsites!

and i agree, camping is in a tent. if youre gonna bring a big assed camper and all the comforts of home you shouldnt leave in the first place. no TV, no electricity, no running water, thats camping.
Posted: Oct 17, 2008 3:41 pm
oh, and everything you eat must be cooked over an open fire.
Posted: Oct 17, 2008 4:07 pm
everything you eat


speaking of fish.....
Posted: Oct 17, 2008 4:07 pm
The only camping I've ever enjoyed was on the beach in Baja. It was in a tent, but there are bathroom facilities where you can take a dump and a shower. You can make a fire and cook there, but there's a town with taquerias a couple of miles up the road, so we usually just eat there. It's pretty freaking relaxing camping on the beach less than 100 yards from the roaring Pacific Ocean.

But, I'm not down with all of the schlepping people do just so they can hang out in nature. It doesn't seem relaxing at all. My wife used to have to go camping with her dad in the Boundary Waters in N. Minnesota. They'd have to carry a canoe and all their gear for as much as a mile between lakes. Heeeellll no!!
Posted: Oct 17, 2008 4:24 pm
Millionaire, I'm still waiting on that camping trip we talked about 2 years ago on that other camping thread....
Posted: Oct 17, 2008 4:58 pm
The only camping I've ever enjoyed was on the beach in Baja.

are you talking about about via de san miguel, 7 miles north of ensenada?
Posted: Oct 17, 2008 5:23 pm
The only camping I've ever enjoyed was on the beach in Baja.

are you talking about about via de san miguel, 7 miles north of ensenada?

Nope, San Quintin about 3 hours south of Ensenada on Mex 1.
Posted: Oct 17, 2008 6:14 pm
if youre gonna bring a big assed camper and all the comforts of home you shouldnt leave in the first place.

i've been thinking about buying a big assed recreational vehicle, but it sure as fuck ain't because i wanna go camping! i just think travelling would be a helluva lot more fun if i bring all (at least a few of) the comforts of home along for the ride! but i probably won't, hauling my comforts in and out of the house sounds too much like work. haha
Posted: Oct 17, 2008 7:30 pm
yeah, the gas mileage on thos things is outtasight! hope you are independently wealthy... wait a couple years and they'll practically be giving those things away.
Posted: Oct 17, 2008 7:31 pm
Camping rules...grew up doing it in the U.P. and all over Michigan....best when you hike in somewhere....just find a spot...and fish your ass off....trout on a stick!
Posted: Oct 20, 2008 12:58 am
Campsite sucked, but a good time was had by all. About 4000 Scouts.

Pack 200, Bear Den REPRESENT!
Posted: Oct 20, 2008 9:07 am

oh shoot, it was one of those kinds of outings? did you guys make some hobo dinners?
Posted: Oct 20, 2008 11:52 am
man, i love camping. especially when it involves canoing and fishing too. and fire. and beer.
Posted: Oct 20, 2008 12:07 pm
Hippies camping ends in violence:

U.S. Forest Service officers pointed weapons at children and fired rubber bullets and pepper spray balls at Rainbow Family members while making arrests Thursday evening, according to witnesses.

"They were so violent, like dogs," Robert Parker told reporter Deborah Stevens of the libertarian-oriented, Round Rock, Texas-based We the People Radio Network [www.wtprn.com] after the incident.

"People yelled at them, 'You're shooting children,'" Parker said during an interview on the network's "Rule of Law Show."

About 7,000 people have arrived at the gathering near Big Sandy in the Wind River Mountains for the annual Gathering of the Tribes, a seven-day event of fellowship, partying including illicit drug use, praying, and living on the land.

They camp on Forest Service land around the country every year, but the Rainbow family's nonhierarchical methods -- no one can speak for the Rainbows, much less sign a land use permit -- often have stymied their relationships.

Read the whole non-groovy story:
http://www.jacksonholestartrib.com/articles/2008/07/05/news/wyoming/b6 f13c1e812604148725747d0005a3c0.txt
Posted: Oct 20, 2008 2:42 pm
i like a hiking/camping trip. and if fishing is involved even better. the driving around in the woods thing isn't as fun. mtn bikes is ok. but no cars.
Posted: Oct 20, 2008 3:17 pm
I hated The Cub Scouts. They made us spend the weekend at the Groton Navy Base where they keep the Nuclear Submarines. We had to stay in the barracks and eat the lousy Navy food. Another time they made us go camping and strung us upside down by our feet 100 feet in the air.. I guess they were trying to make men out of us. I ended up getting kicked out after I stepped on some old lady's foot by accident. They did me a favor.
Posted: Oct 20, 2008 4:55 pm
Like Matto, I spent a lot of time in the U.P. woods - but not actually camping in tents - lots of U.P. folks have "camps," which can have 2-car garages, A/C, satellite TV, etc., especially these days. But in the 60s, a lot of peoples' places were actually deer hunting shacks with no electricity or running water.

My dad bought his place in the mid-70s. It was a one-bedroom cabin with a separate sauna 100 feet down the hillside by the lake. The cabin had a sink that drained outside, but no running water. The pump was (is) down in the sauna. In the winter, you had to remember to bring a couple of gallon jugs to prime it because the lake was frozen over, but the well was far enough down that it didn't freeze.

There was one of those giant wood-burning cast-iron stoves (I think those are worth some money today) to cook with, a propane-powered fridge, and kerosene lights (which were amazingly bright, as good as any electric light.) There was also a few of those old-fashioned oil-burning lamps for nightstand lights or whatever.

The outhouse was about 25 feet behind the camp, not heated or lit in any way. Fun in the winter!!

The sauna had a wood-burning stove (which would sometimes get so hot that the iron would turn orange.) Then of course, after several beers and/or shots of whiskey, you jump into the lake (or into a snowbank if its winter.)

It's kind of the best of both worlds, because there's no electricity, TV, or running water (we'd usually bring a boom box.) But you also have a roof over your head and its possible to stay nice and dry. Ah, good times.

My dad rebuilt the place several years ago with all mod cons, so it isn't as rustic as it once was - it's just a nice little house in the woods now. I still go there every year to relax and get my nature fix.
Posted: Oct 20, 2008 6:36 pm
I just got back from (the atheist's version) of God's Country camping. Though, I'm sure if I wasn't an atheist it would have been the same.

Every year in October we go up to our friend's house in Vilas, NC. Lots of people camp in tents on the grounds, some people stay in the house. It's the most amazing house ever. My buddy built it all with his own two hands. He's a woodworker and stonemason. Absolutely fucking unbelievable three story house nestled in the trees about a third of the way down from the top of the mountain.
This year there were about fourty people there...including all our kids who have grown up.

The fire pit is ESSENTIAL (pics later). This year we had one of the biggest fires ever. There are always lots of macho pissing contests about the fire building. Also, fire throwing...which is super fun but I don't do anymore because I'm usually so drunk by that time all the sparks fall back on my head.
Also essential (Jesse Garon you got a lot of it down) are tons of the kind bud in the woodshop (as big as my house) with the sign on it this year that said "Geezers Only" to keep the kids out, more meat than you can shake a stick at (lamb, Billy's freshly slaughtered cows sirloin roasts, turkey breasts roasted with poblano peppers, pork tenderloin, etc.), whiskey, wine, hundreds of beers, MOONSHINE from the NC mountains, drunken and nondrunken hikes, cold nights with stars enough to make this Memphis city girl drunk.
This year we started a new tradition...the after midnight moonlight hike on the loop trail. My sadistic host wouldn't let us use flashlights, and a dozen of us happily busted our drunken asses falling over logs and whatever else on the steep up and down trail lit only with tiny plastic pumpkins with fake (non burning) tiny tea candles in them.

Sorry so long, but this is the kind of camping that I can totally get into. I had a blast. The trees were really, really beautiful this year...as was the rain the first day, the fog the second day, and the clear as a bell blue skys the next day. Fourty people drinking, eating, recreating, and laughing their asses off for three days is something I look forward to every year all year.

And yes, we've had our share of people falling into the fire though, proudly, I've never done it!
Posted: Oct 20, 2008 8:25 pm
I'm going camping in Minnesota this weekend so we can watch a giant firebreathing puppet show on a boat on the Mississippi River. The hostel was booked so camping it is.
Posted: Oct 20, 2008 8:30 pm
Fourty people

i like camping to avoid those kinds of numbers.
Posted: Oct 20, 2008 9:53 pm
i like camping to avoid those kinds of numbers

well, it's never boring and really fun when you know and love most of them.
Posted: Oct 21, 2008 2:42 am
Shit, I like just being a little cold and putting food on a fire.
And that's alright with me.
Posted: Oct 21, 2008 2:54 am
As for the camping last weekend, took the Den down to Tunica, MS;land of the casinos. No fires, no latrines, just port-a-potties on the side of the road. Campsite was in a big circular driveway (one of many) outside a pavillion. Kids ate, learned to lasso and what plants are poisonous amongst other good-to-know-things. My troop climbed a rock wall exercise, provided by the Army. They earned beads for learning knots and making drums. My kid won't shut up about it, but I'll tell him what I can. Then came the Pow-Wow, and as it turns out, the Northern Drum (Oneida people) I used to sing with (Red Hawk Singers) was there. Kids learned about tradition and reverence and what the songs mean and what the dancers do and why. Good on 'em.
Posted: Oct 21, 2008 9:42 am
I don't care for camping, but fishing rules! Camped a ton growing up. Got kicked out of the Boy Scouts for drinking on Rock Island. Did below zero without a tent (snow trench and drop cloth). Slept in caves. You name it. I like houses. Camping feels masochistic to me.
Posted: Oct 21, 2008 1:05 pm
I love camping. Did it a few times around Wisconsin this summer and it was fun and relaxing, but it's got nothing on Colorado. That's where I lived when I was a kid and we would always go camping in the mountains. My extended family's all about it too. I'd love to move back out there, it's just too bad there ain't shit going on in terms of music, city life, etc.
Posted: Oct 21, 2008 1:26 pm
Yish! Fuck communing with nature. I prefer the dysfunction and miscreants of the big city. Sure there's violent crime in the city, but what about shit like getting attacked by a grizzly bear out in nature, or getting lost in the woods and starving to death?

I love living in the city!
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