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Posted: Oct 16, 2007 1:19 am
 
here is a link,
http://turnit-down.blogspot.com/



Q: Have you encountered any angry-punk fans who are upset that you don't play sloppy early-Reatards style punk anymore?

A: "Yeah, people are like that all the time. There was this guy at GonerFest, before the show he was really drunk and trying to pick a fight with me about playing an acoustic guitar...........
Posted: Oct 16, 2007 1:41 am
 
that was excellent. i still haven't heard blood visions or seen him live, but all that's gonna change on thursday. can't wait.

rich, your interviews are always great!
Posted: Oct 16, 2007 1:45 am
 
thanks dude! I still remember the props you gave me on the Norton one!
Posted: Oct 16, 2007 1:47 am
 
i'm glad i give your life meaning!
Posted: Oct 16, 2007 2:08 am
 
Doesn't take much!
Posted: Oct 16, 2007 2:30 am
 
OK!
Posted: Oct 16, 2007 6:28 am
 
get a room, gentlemen!

rich - great stuff.

why does jay keep getting YOUNGER LOOKING every time i see a photo of him???
Posted: Oct 16, 2007 2:48 pm
 
He's from Ork.
Posted: Oct 16, 2007 5:52 pm
 
i can't wait for the matador stuff... a new single every two months?

fuck yeah! they better have some sort of record club for this shit!
Posted: Oct 16, 2007 5:54 pm
 
why does jay keep getting YOUNGER LOOKING every time i see a photo of him???


he cant look like some old bastard 'spose he needs to get on mtv with those young boston chink studs
Posted: Oct 16, 2007 10:03 pm
 
why does jay keep getting YOUNGER LOOKING every time i see a photo of him???

Maybe it's because he's sucking the life out of the punk scene?
Posted: Oct 16, 2007 10:18 pm
 
i can't wait for the matador stuff... a new single every two months?

fuck yeah! they better have some sort of record club for this shit!


Yeah, I was pretty excited to read that. Bring it on.
Posted: Oct 16, 2007 11:43 pm
 
Maybe it's because he's sucking the life out of the punk scene
hows that?

blood visions/all the singles have made me revisted a lot of old punk rock and brought some new life back into it for me. Esp all the killed by death stuff!
Posted: Oct 16, 2007 11:47 pm
 
i think that was a joke
Posted: Oct 17, 2007 12:40 am
 
Maybe it's because he's sucking the life out of the punk scene
hows that?

blood visions/all the singles have made me revisted a lot of old punk rock and brought some new life back into it for me. Esp all the killed by death stuff!


I\'m sure that was meant as a joke considering that persons name is Wewhowait, a song off of Blood Visions.
Posted: Oct 17, 2007 1:20 am
 
I\'m sure that was meant as a joke considering that persons name is Wewhowait, a song off of Blood Visions.

It's an adverts song!

And yes, it was a joke.

Or was it?
Posted: Oct 17, 2007 2:30 am
 
too bad they don't play it live!
Posted: Oct 17, 2007 6:43 am
 
It's an adverts song!


I hate being ignorant sometimes.
Posted: Oct 17, 2007 6:47 am
 
reatard.
Posted: Oct 17, 2007 6:50 am
 
you're supposed to call him developmentally reatarded, asshole.
Posted: Oct 17, 2007 6:52 am
 
shut up, bitch.
Posted: Oct 17, 2007 6:52 am
 
(SLAP!)
Posted: Oct 17, 2007 2:56 pm
 
It's pretty sad that all Jay could think to do at this point in his "career" is sign to Matador. What a shitty label full of bad, geeky bands. On second thought, maybe it's a perfect fit.
Posted: Oct 17, 2007 3:08 pm
 
Jay and the Chinks was great at that Brooklyn show last week. Saw alot of people I hadn't seen in a long time! Golden Error brought the rock too. WAY crowded tho...
Posted: Oct 17, 2007 5:37 pm
 
why does jay keep getting YOUNGER LOOKING every time i see a photo of him???

FACT: This statement could not have been made by a man. I don't know why, but it's not possible.
Posted: Oct 17, 2007 5:57 pm
 
Jay and the Chinks was great at that Brooklyn show last week.

i wasn't at that one, but at the cakeshop the rock was brought.
Posted: Oct 17, 2007 6:00 pm
 
that place must have been packed. isn't it way too small for a draw like jay?
Posted: Oct 17, 2007 6:02 pm
 
He was better at the Cake Shop...but both shows were good
Posted: Oct 17, 2007 6:08 pm
 
cakeshop was crowded, yes, but i gotta say: that last KK&BBQ show there was even sicker. damn, that was a funny night. how did I get home???

i'm not doing shit like that again.
Posted: Oct 17, 2007 7:27 pm
 
Matador. What a shitty label

Maybe Jay's a vanity project for the Yo La Tengo fucks?

Matador is where acts go to die
Posted: Oct 17, 2007 7:59 pm
 
That's what I'm saying. Why go to some bad label with all those shitty connotations? Smells of a desperation move no matter how many times Goner apologist Rich Balls writes that he's doing great and fighting off the Major Labels with a stick. Who cares anyway. His records sound like Mark Almond.
Posted: Oct 17, 2007 9:04 pm
 
Riggler is trying to make an internet name for himself....kinda sad.
Posted: Oct 17, 2007 9:09 pm
 
kinda sad.

You mean like some pathetic loser who spends his whole life posting "Ed" Oblivian and Jay Retard updates on the internet?
Posted: Oct 17, 2007 9:14 pm
 
missed you ned.
Posted: Oct 17, 2007 11:12 pm
 
rich riggler!
IS
CUTTING EDGE!
PUSHING THE ENVELOPE!
SPIT FIRE!
INTERNET SENSATION!
LOSER!!!!!
Posted: Oct 17, 2007 11:19 pm
 
Rich Balls is:

Sitting in his mother's basement at the computer waiting for breaking "Ed" Oblivian and/or Jay Retard news.
Posted: Oct 17, 2007 11:27 pm
 
Apology Corner
Here we go again. A recent Matador label advertisement mentioned labels like Alias, Audible Hiss, etc. as part of some screwy piece of satire about how other labels want you to think they're small but-we're-bigger-than-the-Hindenburg etc.

Well, we fucked up. Problem is, we've got nothing against Audible Hiss, a very fine NYC label run by our good friend, R Riggler. We thought it was funny 'cause w/ quality records by the likes of Harry Pussy, Arthur Doyle, Donald Miller, To Live & Shave In LA, etc. what could Audible Hiss possibly have in common with a bunch of college-rock "indies" whose releases clog the used bins?

Just 'cause not everyone got the joke doesn't mean it wasn't funny. Regardless, we apologize to Rich Riggler because a) we truly respect what he's doing, and b) we really wish he'd sell us some records again.
Posted: Oct 17, 2007 11:57 pm
 
You mean like some pathetic loser who spends his whole life posting "Ed" Oblivian and Jay Retard updates on the internet?

Is it really that big of a shocker that a GONER RECORDS message board would have people topics posted about bands with GONER releases?
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 12:25 am
 
yo this is just for 6 singles ... who knows where the album will land...
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 12:27 am
 


Is it really that big of a shocker that a GONER RECORDS message board would have people topics posted about bands with GONER releases?

It is when they have any success.
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 12:28 am
 
that IS a surprise!
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 12:35 am
 
i cant imagine what anyone who doesnt like reatards or oblivians would be doing here in the first place.
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 12:45 am
 
At Other Music in NYC (near the Matador offices) they have the Goner single with a sign over it that says: Single Of The Year. Maybe that explains it. Gerard gave me no indication that he's ever heard Jay. He has heard of Todd Trickknee though.
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 12:47 am
 
that IS a surprise!

I hear they even have their own t-shirts.
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 1:12 am
 
I heard the Mets had a historic collapse and it was Cosloy's fault --- again!
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 4:01 am
 
whatever, I'm sure the six singles will be great
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 7:27 am
 
I am a little surprised that he'd sign to Matador. Label seems well passed it's prime, plus, it seems you could boom as bad as the Dollrods & never been hipper than Jon Spencer.

Hope it works out well for him. Just seems like he could have done just as well on In The Red & this move isn't significantly better.
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 7:50 am
 
i cant imagine what anyone who doesnt like reatards or oblivians would be doing here in the first place.


i just come here to see what's new on the mailorder page...
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 8:20 am
 
Help me out on this one 'cause I really don't follow such things, but did going from In The Red to Matador do anything for The Ponys?
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 8:25 am
 
jay didn't sign his new record / future over to matador. he's doing some ridiculous singles deal with 'em.

should be fun!
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 8:26 am
 
Help me out on this one 'cause I really don't follow such things, but did going from In The Red to Matador do anything for The Ponys?

yeah, they finally made an album that didn't suck...
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 8:29 am
 
Help me out on this one 'cause I really don't follow such things, but did going from In The Red to Matador do anything for The Ponys?

yeah, they finally made an album that didn't suck...


That's funny. I think Dan from The Feelers really likes them. Is the record they did for Matador really better than the stuff they did for In The Red? How many more copies do you think they sold on Matador versus In The Red?
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 8:46 am
 
Is the record they did for Matador really better than the stuff they did for In The Red?


yes
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 10:13 am
 
i like the ponys record on in the red better.

but, yeah, it seemed to me that the ponys were getting a lot more mainstream press after signing with matador. they've got to have a lot more money for marketing and promotions.
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 10:22 am
 
RAPE!
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 10:22 am
 
im retired, not dead...
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 10:23 am
 
the exploding hearts are dead and ike turner is alive
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 2:07 pm
 
yeah, they finally made an album that didn't suck...


huh? Did you listen to Turn the Lights Out?

whole lotta suck
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 2:12 pm
 
Lemme get this straight... Matador is STILL releasing records? Matador has money? o.k. I guess.
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 3:23 pm
 
I think they do pretty well financially, though I don't think they have the major label distribution deal anymore, do they? It's true that the Ponys had a lot more of a "buzz" when on ITR, though they've probably received more cash from Matador (not that I'd know, just a guess).

By the way, I just signed to Sony!
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 4:39 pm
 
I just think it was funny when I had this kid call me from Austin to tell me about this awesome "new" artist Jay Reatard.

Same guy who called me to see if i'd ever heard of the Ponys.

Seems Matador gets your name out there if anything.
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 4:41 pm
 
finally heard the first half of blood visions last night. cool record. thanks tor! looking forward to tonight's show.
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 5:12 pm
 
I don't think they have the major label distribution deal anymore, do they?

At least digitally, I know at work that we don't get Matador delivered from any major label.
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 6:21 pm
 
I just think it was funny when I had this kid call me from Austin to tell me about this awesome "new" artist Jay Reatard.

Same guy who called me to see if i'd ever heard of the Ponys.

Seems Matador gets your name out there if anything



I take it you get lots of important phone calls....
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 6:38 pm
 
I can't speak as to whether this is a good move for Jay Reatard or not (I mean, I really don't see why not), but I think Matador is probably doing A-ok... I would imagine they're one of the more visible, financially sturdy indies out there. In terms of labels still in existence probably just behind Sub Pop and Merge (maybe?) for record sales over the label's lifetime?

Hell, I don't know.
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 7:01 pm
 
Matador can do nothing but help Jay, especially seeing it's just this crazy singles deal, which is awesome.

I guarantee the Ponys are doing better on Matador (not like ITR wasnt good, but it's two different situations), but there's a big difference between buzz on the Goner board, TB and HozAc (which they had on ITR) and buzz in CMJ and on college radio (which Matador got them). Even if it's a slightly lateral move, it's still helps them sell some more records, get some better paying shows/guarantees and some above ground press.
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 7:12 pm | Edited by: Rich Balls
 
Interpol was on Matador, they recently signed a deal with Capitol Records. I'm sure their records on Matador had nothing to with getting a major deal!!!

from AMG:
"Matador signed the band in 2002 and issued a three-song single and the band's debut LP (Turn on the Bright Lights) by year's end. The album made the band indie stars, and extensive touring around the world followed. Just prior to releasing their second album (Antics) in September 2004, they opened for the Cure as part of that band's Curiosa Festival. Our Love to Admire, the band's first album for a major label (Capitol), was released in 2007."
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 7:20 pm
 
i think its interesting that matador wants to turn to the 7" market. will it just be with one person or are they going to do a whole bunch of 7 inch deals? with the cd becoming more and more worthless it will be interesting if the bigger players try to turn back to objects more fetishized, as part of some larger strategy. unless of course these will all be cdingles (pronounced 'sah dingle'.)
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 8:49 pm
 
Everyone should just sign to Dusty Medical! You get tamales!
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 9:10 pm
 
tamales are good.
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 9:26 pm
 
I guess Matador just stands for everything that I'm against.

(Go check out their cool forum. Then come back and talk to me.)

But Business is business, right Jay? I hope you "move" a lot of "units."
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 9:35 pm
 
tamales? wow!
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 9:43 pm
 
I just breezed through their active roster and there are a lot of successful indie bands in there (Cat Power, New Pornographers, Mogwai, Yo La Tengo, Stephen Malkmus)... not really my cup of tea, but those are widely-known bands within their respective realms. Also, Times New Viking and Mission of Burma are on there and they are both awesome! That's just the active bands; there are tonnes more in their archives.

I'll bet some of you like pooping in the punchbowl, too.
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 9:45 pm
 
bzzzzzzzzt
hookorcrook
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 9:46 pm
 
Yeah Jay, you really should've really thought to consult with everyone on here before making any deals. It really seems like there's some useful insights into what you should be doing here, NOT.
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 9:47 pm
 
tamales? wow!

Taking notes?
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 9:51 pm
 
Wait, is the guy from the action swingers giving advice on how to "make it"?
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 9:55 pm
 
(Go check out their cool forum. Then come back and talk to me.)

Why is indie rock so white?

Point taken. I feel like I need to pressure wash the fag offa me.
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 9:57 pm
 
I guess Matador just stands for everything that I'm against.

Just like self-righteous arrogant pricks who want to live in a vacuum where great music is made, yet never successful, and bring out the same exact rhetoric whenever a band has even a small minutia of a bigger fan base, just stand for everything I'm against.
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 10:02 pm
 
I've actually been loving Otis recently. I've been trying to learn how to play rhythm piano, and it's really inspiring stuff.
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 10:04 pm
 
i hate message boards.
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 10:14 pm
 
Wait, is the guy from the action swingers giving advice on how to "make it"?


fear of a fucked up planet?
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 10:14 pm
 
I just hope the crazy Jay Reatard singles deal isn't a clusterfuck like Matador's crazy Mission of Burma 8 x 12" deal turned out to be.
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 10:15 pm
 
i hate message boards.

I think somebody needs to go read the Ronny's thread again...
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 10:21 pm
 
TAMALE PUNK
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 10:26 pm
 
TAMALE PUNK

I prefer TACO ROCK!
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 10:27 pm
 
Yeah Jay, you really should've really thought to consult with everyone on here before making any deals. It really seems like there's some useful insights into what you should be doing here, NOT.

HA!!!
AMEN!
There are alotta Don Kings on this board!
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 10:28 pm
 
enchilada soul
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 10:29 pm
 
Had to do it before SubPop nabbed him!
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 10:42 pm
 
AMALE PUNK

I prefer TACO ROCK!


ROCK-A-TACO ??
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 10:43 pm
 
ROCK-A-TACO ??


YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 10:56 pm
 
whats worse?
sup pop
matador
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 10:57 pm
 
i TOLD you that shit was catchy!

taco rock is pretty good too, though...

actually, that might be better.
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 10:59 pm
 
quit lurking, crazy.
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 11:13 pm
 
Saying "not" (in CAPS) after a fallacious statement sucks really, really bad. I think Blood Visions kicks ass & good luck to him. I know Times New Viking is doing well w/ Matador. I disagree with Rich (the bitch) regarding the Ponys, though - I was talking about the mainstream & indie buzz they were getting while on ITR. Haven't been seeing that level since the label move.
Posted: Oct 18, 2007 11:39 pm
 
"At Other Music in NYC (near the Matador offices) they have the Goner single with a sign over it that says: Single Of The Year. Maybe that explains it. Gerard gave me no indication that he's ever heard Jay. He has heard of Todd Trickknee though."

I've got a nice pile of emails from Ned (under a diff name, natch) from earlier this year and while a variety of topics were discussed (mostly Ned's discovery of every interesting musical act of the past 20 years...prior to parasites like me turning them into pussies, natch) the subject of Jay was never raised. I wasn't aware I needed to brief Mr. Hayden on everything-we're-into (or that he'd give a flying fuck), but I'll be sure to correct that in the future.

But yeah, we base almost all of our signings on what the folks at Other Music are into. Since we fell out with Ned there's been a paucity of hot ideas to rip off, and since having any opinions/taste/ideas of our own is something we've got no patience for, it's pretty helpful having Other Music around the corner (it's not as though Ned's taking our calls). Until we moved, anyway. Now that we're around the corner from the Starbucks on Varick and Spring, we'll have to rely on their playlist for roster advice.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 12:18 am
 
oooh, sarcasm!
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 12:34 am
 
Hey Gerard, be sure to check out Starbucks' hot new act, Sonic Youth. You could probably "move" a lot of "units".

And you're not even gonna mention Todd? That's fucked up. Todd rules!
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 12:39 am
 
we always appreciate the hot tips, Ned. Were it not for the assistance of humble musicologists like yourself...we'd still have an office around the corner from Other Music.
hookorcrook
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 12:42 am
 
Saying "not" (in CAPS) after a fallacious statement sucks really, really bad.


Another thing to consult with you over before one does his own thing. Noted! You da man! always right!

NOT!
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 12:48 am
 
You fucking see what Jay did? He brought Gerard over here with him like a fucking infestation. Is that what you losers want? Let's start talking about the New Pornographers or some other shitty Matador "act" now. Let's get all ironical and put on our Spoon T-shirts. Fuck rock and roll, right Gerard? I fucking told you this Matador thing was a big mistake.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 12:55 am
 
I have an awesome picture of a Matador hanging in my kitchen, and it was only $2 at the Salvation Army.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 1:01 am
 
I fucking told you this Matador thing was a big mistake.
It's just a label. Not all labels are going to be a "way of life" like Goner is. If all of a sudden Jay is forced to do "package tours" and shit like that, then I'll bow down to your bitter foresight, just because Matador puts out some of his stuff doesn't mean I'm going to go out and buy a Yo La Tengo album. I don't understand how anyone over the age of 21 can still be so concerned about their favorite bands "selling out"
Frankly I think the music that we talk about here is the best and most important music in the world. We all do, otherwise we wouldn't spend so much time and money obsessing over it. I'd much rather spend my time and energy listening to good music as opposed to sitting around bitching about how someone else is not doing things the way you would, it's so pointless and exhausting to worry about.
I'll use this as an analogy, when I was younger I would never want to have sex with a girl that was considered "slutty", I thought I was better than that. Of course I should have realized that I should just be thankful that any girl in the world is willing to let me look at her naked. When acts I like happen to be on a bigger label, I can just be glad that I get to hear some good music in a world full of shitty shitty music.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 1:05 am
 
You got a lot to learn , Davie. Enjoy your slut, Jay on his new label.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 1:06 am
 
i say good for him. reatards been out there for years playing his ass off for everyone and he deserves whatever good things come his way. as long as the label doesnt influence the music making who cares who produces and distributes it?
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 1:07 am
 
You got a lot to learn , Davie
No I learned it a long time ago when I used to spend a lot of time bitching about how my favorite band was getting too popular, go write for Maximum rocknroll.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 1:10 am
 
Dude, I've never even owned a Jay Retard record. I could care less what he does with his "career." But if you think labels like Matador haven't destroyed the rock and roll you love you are sadly (and ignorantly) mistaken.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 1:11 am
 
They haven't done anything to "destroy" music I love, they just put out albums by bands I don't like, now they are putting out albums by a few bands I do like, what is the problem?
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 1:29 am
 
I've never even owned a Jay Retard record.

But have you ever even heard one? It's one thing to complain about what some "artist" you like is doing, but to complain about one that you don't care about either way seems stupid.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 1:43 am
 
pussy galore guitar wolf jsbx they cant be that bad...
hookorcrook
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 1:55 am
 
Lyres, Chain Gang
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 2:05 am
 
Jay said, ITS NOT AN ALBUM DEAL.
it's just a singles deal.
I think he's going to sign with DEF JAM or JIVE myself.

JAY Z REATARD!!
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 3:06 am
 
From what I understand Times New Viking are doing a 7" on Matador. I'm told they're screening the covers themselves. From everything I've heard the label has given them complete control over not just their music, but even some of the promo/marketing aspects. Not to mention the label has the kind of money that will help these bands advance their craft, whether that's by helping them pay their rent so they can focus more on their music, or even buy better equipment. Jay's music keeps on getting better and better. I like the Reatards fine, but if you can't see that this is some NEXT LEVEL SHIT, well, I think you've got your head in the sand.

The better the deals that people like Jay get will only help others who are trying to push boundries.

While it may suck to have to see your favorite act in a large venue filled with strangers, that's why you gotta keep your ears to the ground and catch these people as often as you can before they reach that level of success. Or you can just feel good about the fact that the number of hot girls at the shows increases expotentially with this kinda thing.

...or throw vodka in his eyes and get your ass beat, I guess.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 4:52 am
 
Chain Gang

That album is the best album ever.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 5:06 am
 
NEXT LEVEL SHIT is a good band name...
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 5:45 am
 
i'm going to copy and paste this entire thread into my next paper
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 5:49 am
 
i'm going to copy and paste this entire thread into my next paper

What is it on?
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 5:51 am
 
native american holocaust
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 5:57 am
 
What is it on?
how great the goner board is
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 6:15 am
 
What is it on?

Standing on the shoulders of giants,

or,

How I got anyone else to do my work for me
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 6:16 am
 
I'll need to see you in my office.
hookorcrook
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 6:59 am
 
Chain Gang

That album is the best album ever.


i couldn't agree more!

also, with what kevin said.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 10:04 am
 
Cos, start putting out Conflict again and all is forgiven!

Hot tip: Thomas Function
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 12:43 pm
 
I ran across an old Conflict in pretty pale green xerox w/ a picture of GG yanking his dick the other day. That was a good mag. Hot tip - more issues of Conflict.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 12:43 pm
 
kuh-NOT!
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 2:02 pm
 
It seems to me that someone like Jay is too far along in making music to let external influences fuck him up. And if he does, well, theres nothing that anyone can do about it. Either the records will be good or they won't.

It isn't as fun seeing people you like in bigger venues surounded by clueless people, but like Kevin said, you should have gotten your fill by the time they reach that level if they are an artist of substance. And I'm sure it's nice to get paid for doing what you love.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 3:29 pm
 
i saw jay last night. amazing. boston chinks were solid! too bad matador (or some really big label) doesn't go after alex white, cuz that girl is a stone cold STAR. red orchestra was an incredible backing band too. nice parallel there with the stars and the backing bands on the same bill.

i was in other music one time in the four years i've been here. those dudes were depressing.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 3:54 pm
 
What if this board gets to the NEXT LEVEL? Will it have a chance to sign to a bigger label? And if it does, do we finally make some money for posting here all the time?
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 4:07 pm
 
i saw bazooka joe seeing jay last night. amazing! dude's a stone cold STAR. nobody watches bands like that guy.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 4:26 pm | Edited by: bazooka joe
 
i take it back when i said we need to hang out again before i move.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 5:25 pm
 
All the bands you guys mentioned were reissues with the exception of JSBX and Guitar Wolf (the proto-Jay?). Reissues. Now go look at the regular bands they put out and again then come and talk to me.

PS And who established contact with Chain Gang by buying a bunch of their demos one day at The Record Canteen (where I had to beg Hilly and Louise to let Gerard book bands after he got fired from Homestead and before I went to bat for Matador with my bosses at Caroline when they couldn't afford to press Teenage Fanclub and Superchunk CD's) which Johan, Gerard and me then bought? Ahem.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 5:38 pm
 
Wow, you are amazing. Thanks for being you.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 5:55 pm
 
PS And who established contact with Chain Gang by buying a bunch of their demos one day at The Record Canteen (where I had to beg Hilly and Louise to let Gerard book bands after he got fired from Homestead and before I went to bat for Matador with my bosses at Caroline when they couldn't afford to press Teenage Fanclub and Superchunk CD's) which Johan, Gerard and me then bought? Ahem.

Thanks so much for doing something no one gives a shit about.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 6:16 pm
 
Chain Gang were awesome - even the Mondo Manhatten LP no one seems to give a shit about.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 6:20 pm
 
i've never even heard of them. i really am know-nothing.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 6:54 pm
 
Is Universal on here yet?

Baby needs a new pair of shoes.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 6:57 pm
 
It seems to me that someone like Jay is too far along in making music to let external influences fuck him up. And if he does, well, theres nothing that anyone can do about it. Either the records will be good or they won't.

I was gonna say something to this effect but the above is probably more articulate than I could manage today.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 6:59 pm
 
i've never even heard of them. i really am know-nothing.

"My Fly," "Son of Sam" and others have shown up on various KBD-type records. Very unique band. Mondo Manhatten feels really "New York" to me. Forced Exposure did a huge cover story on 'em once.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 7:00 pm
 
Son of Sam rules!
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 7:02 pm
 
Mondo Manhattan rules. Kill The Bouncers At The Ritz!
hookorcrook
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 7:34 pm
 
Matador did that later ea CG double 7" w/ Kill For You (their best song in my opinion), Cut off the Drug Czar's Head, Beijing, and Satanic Rockers.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 7:46 pm
 
Matador did that later ea CG double 7" w/ Kill For You (their best song in my opinion), Cut off the Drug Czar's Head, Beijing, and Satanic Rockers.

the double 7 sucked, though...

and mondo manhattan was on lost.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 7:51 pm
 
Hey, if Cosloy's so great, why did the Mets have that historic collapse?

sorry, just had to mention it again. and no, Matador should NOT steal Tony Bennett away from Starbucks.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 7:53 pm
 
The Chain Gang later era Double 7" was the stuff from the demo.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 8:10 pm
 
Mondo Manhattan rules. Kill The Bouncers At The Ritz!

They're the walking shit!

Does that movie even "really" exist as a final thinger? If so, I wanna see it.
hookorcrook
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 8:12 pm
 
the double 7 sucked, though

whaaaaaaaat? no way.

ned, when were those recorded?

Sorry to get so far off the topic of everyone getting into Jay's business.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 8:16 pm
 
the big question is: how many grilled cheese sandwiches did it take to lure jay over to the mighty matador?
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 8:58 pm
 
GARY GILMORE GARY GILMORE!

best song. mondo manhattan rules as an immersive album deal.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 9:02 pm
 
Mondo Manhatten was for years a dollar bin staple. I've picked up a few over the years & gave them out. Haven't seen 'em lately, though.

Staaaaaaand by the window, you won't get hurt
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 9:03 pm
 
Also, there's a Jay interview you should all check out:
http://turnit-down.blogspot.com/
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 9:10 pm
 
ote Also, there's a Jay interview you should all check out:
http://turnit-down.blogspot.com/

Thanks for the link.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 9:12 pm
 
that was excellent. i still haven't heard blood visions or seen him live, but all that's gonna change on thursday. can't wait.

rich, your interviews are always great!
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 9:29 pm
 
I think that stuff was recorded around when Ricky brought the tapes by which would have been like 88 or 89. Gerard? (I remember when Johan alerted me to a copy of MM at Sounds for $3.99 or something back in the day. You didn't see them much. Needless to say I snagged it)

And yeah, I've heard Jay's music and it kicks ass. I already said that before. That Trapped in TheCity song rules How could I not like it?. I dig Eric O.'s stuff and king Louie too.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 9:34 pm | Edited by: Rich Balls
 
that was excellent. i still haven't heard blood visions or seen him live, but all that's gonna change on thursday. can't wait.

rich, your interviews are always great!


Jack Stands is a creative message-poster, and is hung like a prison inmate!!!
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 9:39 pm
 
persons unfamiliar with Sir Riggler's brilliance over the years might well wonder which is the bigger injustice --- that he's never received proper credit for introducing us to Matador's handful of non-sucky acts...or that he's never received sufficient public blame for playing such a crucial role in the label's infancy.

No worries, though. It's all been sorted out in this wonderful forum, leaving us with one final unsolved mystery : how can a man so proficient at sucking his own dick find so much time to school the rest of us on the interweb?

(good question, Jesse, and I'd like to take this opportunity to apologize for the way Matador ruined Guillermo Mota, Aaron Heilman and Jorge Sosa. Had they only remained on In The Red, I'm pretty sure the Mets would've won at least 90 games. )
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 9:42 pm
 
NASTY NATE!
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 9:52 pm
 
chavez!!!!
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 9:54 pm
 
I think the poles must be shifting. Shit's just gettin weird.
hookorcrook
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 9:59 pm
 
Mondo Manhatten was for years a dollar bin staple.

(I remember when Johan alerted me to a copy of MM at Sounds for $3.99 or something back in the day. You didn't see them much. Needless to say I snagged it)

So...there were plenty of Chain Gang LPs just chilling in Wisconsin but very few in New York city? That's rather curious.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 10:03 pm | Edited by: Rich Balls
 
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 10:07 pm
 
Not so curious. It was on Twin/Tone from Minneapolis.

(And Gerard, I'm more than a little uneasy with all the homo-erotic imagery. I guess that's what happens to a career bachelor like yourself. I'm glad I didn't slip up and say anything nice about you. Jerk.)
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 10:10 pm
 
Is Casablanca on here yet?

Staags: The Disco Album
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 10:13 pm
 
Greg O played guitar on a major label album in 1993

Wow, alterna-nerd style.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 10:50 pm
 
not to nitpick, Ned, but the imagery in question would more autoerotic than homoerotic.

"career bachelor"? hey, if you're trying to erase a near decade of marriage from the history books, good luck. The lawyers tell me it's a bit more complicated.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 11:08 pm
 
Attacking me isn't going to make your label suck any less, Gerard.
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 11:16 pm
 
that's not what the focus groups tell us!
Posted: Oct 20, 2007 4:07 am
 
Not so curious. It was on Twin/Tone from Minneapolis.


distributed by twin/tone but lost had a new york addy...

i never quite understood that bullshit.
Posted: Oct 20, 2007 2:35 pm | Edited by: Vinyl Ritchie
 
and king Louie too.

I have to admit, that Louie is the one Goner phenomenon I just dont get. There are people whose taste I resepct that ride for this dudes music, but for the life of me I just dont get it.
I have to think that he is some medical miracle...its like he is able to add a chromosome as soon as he picks up a guitar....
Posted: Oct 20, 2007 3:15 pm
 
its like he is able to add a chromosome as soon as he picks up a guitar....

Haaahaaa!

King Louie RULEZ! PARTY!
Posted: Oct 20, 2007 6:17 pm
 
A++ thread, would read again.
Posted: Oct 20, 2007 9:50 pm
 
Louie is the one Goner phenomenon I just dont get

You don't like the Royal Pendletons? Bad Times? Exploding Hearts? Persuaders? "Streets of Iron???" "I'm a Pretender???" Modern classic tunes in a wide variety of genres, I don't understand what's not to like.
Posted: Oct 20, 2007 9:57 pm
 
some folks dont like his voice
Posted: Oct 20, 2007 10:03 pm
 
ugly people make me wanna fucking puke.
Posted: Oct 20, 2007 10:29 pm
 
stay away from the mirror
Posted: Oct 20, 2007 11:06 pm
 
I guess my point aside from Matador sucks and Gerard is a jerk is that the old way of doing things is dead. Why does Jay even need to be involved with Matador at all? Tim told me they sold like no records for Crypt. So what are they gonna do for Jay aside from suck his "street credibility" or whatever from him and make a lot of people who don't know his music think he's some lame Indy rocker? Are Yo La Tengo or Steven Malkmus fans really gonna buy Jay's records? I don't think so. So what's the point? (Unless he plans to take the Marc Almond thing further.) I thought Jay already has his own label anyway.
Posted: Oct 21, 2007 1:04 am | Edited by: Whiskey Bent
 
Q: So what are they gonna do for Jay.......
So what's the point?


A: the label has the kind of money that will help these bands advance their craft, whether that's by helping them pay their rent so they can focus more on their music, or even buy better equipment. Jay's music keeps on getting better and better.

I'm usually not down w/ Kevin's banter, but I'm totally down on this point. I know it's pointless to chime in at this point....but Ned's gonna to be mean to me soon enough....why not start now?
Posted: Oct 21, 2007 1:06 am
 
Are Yo La Tengo or Steven Malkmus fans really gonna buy Jay's records?

You'd be suprised. A while back I met a kid in Fond Du Lac, WI that was really into Smashing Pumpkins, but had recently somehow followed that through Sonic Youth to Wolf Eyes and had somehow stumbled upon both Times New Viking and Blood Visions (it had just come out) and was going crazy on that. The kid was in his mid-20's and was a very cool guy but was only just now really getting into underground shit (Fond Du Lac is fucked up industrial town filled with former hammerskins, mohawk punks and "emo" bands whose members have homemade prison style tattoos and crack addictions). I traded him one of my records for drugs. It was a good deal. Now he's always trying to find out about those kinds of shows.
Posted: Oct 21, 2007 1:14 am
 
You act like I never went through this myself and with a bigger label than Matador. Kevin is delusional. I'm just telling you Punk Rock doesn't do well in close proximity to creeps like Gerard. Look what happened to Jon Spencer.
Posted: Oct 21, 2007 2:24 am
 
stay away from the mirror


my mirror is right next to the toilet.
Posted: Oct 21, 2007 2:31 am
 
Are Yo La Tengo or Steven Malkmus fans really gonna buy Jay's records?


why not? he does a go-betweens song on the flip of a recent single that sounds exactly like the fucking original.

how many of you hipper than fuck goner assholes who'd never lower themselves to listen to the go-betweens have been raving like loons over that one?
Posted: Oct 21, 2007 2:36 am | Edited by: chicago kevin
 
Tim told me they sold like no records for Crypt.


oh christ, if this turns into another thread about the accounting practices at crypt this thread is going to dwarf the clean teens and ronnies/mpblows threads in terms of sheer bat-shit lunatic awesomeness.
Posted: Oct 21, 2007 2:47 am
 
Punk Rock doesn't do well in close proximity to creeps like Gerard.

Jay is punk rock, but his new stuff is pop music. I like it better than his "punk" stuff anyway.
Posted: Oct 21, 2007 3:18 am
 
Tim told me they sold like no records for Crypt.

Tim says that about everyone.
Posted: Oct 21, 2007 3:47 am
 
how many of you hipper than fuck goner assholes who'd never lower themselves to listen to the go-betweens have been raving like loons over that one?


actually i already went thru my Go-Betweens phase about 4 years ago... s'cool.
Posted: Oct 21, 2007 5:42 pm
 
Wait, so what album was that with Greg on it that was posted earlier?
Posted: Oct 21, 2007 5:47 pm
 
Wait, so what album was that with Greg on it that was posted earlier?

Bad Man?
Posted: Oct 21, 2007 6:04 pm
 
Wait, so what album was that with Greg on it that was posted earlier?

Bad Man?


OOOh - can I have the lyrics, please?
Posted: Oct 21, 2007 6:22 pm
 
Speaking of the Go-Betweens (who I actually opened for at Danceteria back in the mid-80's) I seen GB's bassist Robert Vickers wife Janie at The Hilly Memorial the other night. Didn't see Robert though (he was in The Colors too).
Posted: Oct 21, 2007 7:01 pm
 
Are you sure you're not French? I take that back. I've met the French and they whine less than you.
Posted: Oct 21, 2007 7:30 pm
 
Who gives a fuck.
Posted: Oct 21, 2007 7:31 pm | Edited by: levon
 
wait... lots of people apparently.
Posted: Oct 21, 2007 8:17 pm
 
pissed jeans on sub pop is a-ok by me
jay should sign to Fat because that would be high-larious and i'd still buy it
Posted: Oct 21, 2007 8:29 pm
 
that would rule!
Posted: Oct 21, 2007 9:32 pm
 
Man, it's a shame you didn't come the Rumble- it was pretty dull at times, and it would've certainly been more fun to have smoked some shitty mass-produced weed with you in a coffee shop that was blasting shitty techno!
Posted: Oct 21, 2007 10:03 pm
 
Nanne's right, no distro for Matador in Holland and the Euro is a monster. The new Ponys album is 20 in stores here, if you can find it (and want to find it in this case). That's about $28 and, yes, importing one copy would have been cheaper. Sub Poop is distributed by Konkurrent but a Sub Pop 7" still goes for 6 in stores.

Guy, the Rumble wasn't that bad, was it?
Posted: Oct 21, 2007 10:07 pm
 
Hey man! Nah, it wasn't bad, but I've had more fun at the US festivals. Did you win those Zeppelin tickets yet?
Posted: Oct 21, 2007 10:10 pm
 
zeppelin suck.
Posted: Oct 21, 2007 10:47 pm
 
plant couldnt or wouldnt hit the high notes even when they broke up back in 1980. i mean, this shit is seriously bad and i doubt he's gotten any better. band sounds ok but the voacls are LAME. put a little effort into it, grandpa!
Posted: Oct 21, 2007 11:27 pm
 


why not? he does a go-betweens song on the flip of a recent single that sounds exactly like the fucking original.


I have that Go-Betweens record and I don't think it sounds exactly the same.
Posted: Oct 21, 2007 11:52 pm
 
No, no tickets for me and seeing the prices they pay on ebay for those tix... I think I would have chosen eggs for my money.

Sorry it was dull, but the program promissed that already.

Two Tears, the Complications, Jack O, Lover!, Hollywood Sinners, Harlan and the Rip Offs weren't dull! People could have partied more, but weed and alcohol aren't exactly uppers and the distro of blow wasn't very good.
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