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Posted: Jun 1, 2007 1:14 am
 
so *i played a show in serbia and this poor ass east europe trash fan boy smashed my fucking gutiar to win punk points... its the drummer in the bqnd nqmed darko who emqiled me to brag that he did it.... anywyays
I got a 100 euro _ buck award for anyone who has his adress hat pans out.. i have my zagareb mofia buds on the cqse ... hers his myspace r.i.p jqys flying veehttp://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&fr iendid=53127550
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 1:22 am
 
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 1:44 am
 
Oh well, flying v's are gay anyway.

but, sorry bro....I'd beat him up too.

You should find a super geek to hack his myspace and fuck with em from the inside.

Or maybe you could sue him.
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 2:18 am
 
fuck off vees are great and well this was really uncalled for ..


I got a trck on his nig allready more infor is awesome....
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 4:40 am
 
I thought this was going to be about an airplane destroying a bunch of ducks.
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 5:17 am
 
boo dood!
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 6:22 am
 
he smashed it while you were playing it?

his bands named after Bad Religion
how awful could he be?

plus those people are used to drinking gasoline labeled as vodka
how can you harm him?
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 6:28 am
 
That's lame, sorry Jay. I thought your V was RAD.
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 6:35 am
 
That myspace page says his name is Darko Kujundzic. I don't know if that's a common name in Bosnia, but that guy seems to be all over google, like here and here. Possible phone number here?
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 6:59 am
 
Thats REATARDED!
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 7:06 am
 
he smashed it while you were playing it?

no we left the stage then he picked it up when the room was empty then smashed it ... what a puss
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 8:57 am
 
Just so you know, if you get the mafia after him, he may very likely wind up dead. Are you sure he deserves it?
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 9:08 am
 
deserve's got nuthin to do with it. . . .[BLAM!!!]
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 1:35 pm | Edited by: Rumpleforeskin
 
life is cheap in Serbia ( as in south Memphis)anyway. A nation full of war criminals.
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 3:15 pm
 
is jay spelling like that cuz he's drunk and high or using a euro keyboard?
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 3:24 pm
 
He's pissed, Joe, PISSED!
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 3:28 pm | Edited by: Rumpleforeskin
 
never mind.
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 6:29 pm
 
did he say anything before or after as to why he would do something like this?

well this was really uncalled for ..

indeed. nutcase for sure.
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 6:31 pm
 
I sent him a myspace message about this. Here's what he said back:

i think that it is so fucking cool when JAY RETARD comes here and destroy stage equipment. i think that it is so fucking cool when JAY RETARD smash beer bottles on venue walls and injures people on the show. i think that it is so fucking cool when JAY RETARD threats people on show in zagreb like shit. you think that is punk rock?

best,

darko
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 6:33 pm
 
Can't say I'm surprised, Sorry about your guitar Jay. Hope you packed an extra

Serbia can be a rough place to play. I heard that when the Bassholes were over there, they played their set, went backstage for a few seconds, then came back to do an encore and one of their cabinets was gone off the stage.

When we played Serbia we were greated by machine gun toting guards with German Shepards, the free john schooley CD is what got us in...suckers.
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 6:44 pm
 
Sounds like jay made new friends over there. That darko sounds like a douche. YOu shoulda struck while the iron was hot.
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 6:50 pm
 
I will never go back to that neck of the woods.

Not boasting, but I've been all over da woild and "Former Yugoslavia" is full of the most rotten fuckers imaginable.

Basically, they have no honor OR respect. I don't know why.

We were kicked out of four consecutive hostels/hotels in both Zagreb AND Llubjana. For no reason whatsoever. They were having a heavy metal festival in Zagreb and I've never heard/seen such pathetic posturing shit, and I've spent some time on Sunset Blvd.

J, you should concentrate on the UK, Spain & Scando-lando, where they appreciate a good show and not just front a lot of attitude
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 7:15 pm
 
concentrate on the UK, Spain & Scando-lando, where they appreciate a good show and not just front a lot of attitude

I think you're forgetting some countries
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 7:19 pm
 
serbia is awful.

croatian metals dudes are awful. they bring us normal croats all kinds of shame.
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 7:31 pm
 
I was in Yugoslavia back when it was Yugoslavia and I did not have the same experience as y'all. I thought the people were fine.

I do know one thing about Eastern Europeans though, if you fuck with them, they will fuck you hard. I guess they don't like it when Americans come to their country and fuck up their venues. Life is cheap over there and in my experience punk rock antics don't always fly. Could have been a whole hell of a lot worse.

Sorry to hear about your guitar though, dude.
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 7:33 pm
 
FUCK THAT SHIT!

someone should smash his face
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 8:21 pm | Edited by: banned
 
I'm not against "fuckin' shit up." In fact, it's one of my favorite pastimes, but when I get arrested doing something obnoxious, I'm not suprised by it. I don't know what happened at that show, but if I was breaking equipment at a venue in a severly impoverished country where the saying "life is cheap" is putting it lightly, I guess I'd feel happy that only my guitar was smashed, as it could have just as easily have been my skull.

Also, if I was going to deal with the fact that my guitar was smashed, I'd do it myself instead of sending the mafia out after the dude, because that would make me a pussy.
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 8:24 pm
 
Again, just my opinion and I state with all due respect. I ain't trying to pick a fight.
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 8:36 pm
 
Actually, scratch the pussy part, I guess it could also mean I was on tour and didn't have time to deal with smashing someone's face. Either way, I'd probably just cut my losses and try and learn something from the experience myself.
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 8:42 pm
 
and learn something from the experience myself.



Like NOT fuck up the venues equipment, injure people with flying glass and threaten people?

IF that really happened...we are only hearing one side of the story.
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 8:48 pm
 
fuck up the venues equipment, injure people with flying glass and threaten people


Sounds rad to me. I remember the last time his ass came to LA. He broke shit for sure. THe Scene Bar was not even sure what to think. I thought it was rad to see footlong sections of the ceiling dropping on people...haha. as for the bottles broken..whatever. Punk Fuckin Rock! Don't like it, stay home and listen to the record.
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 8:54 pm
 
Yeah, I ain't trying to pass judgment. I just know while that kind of behavior may even be desired at places in the US, that is a completely different area of the world and I genuinely believe that it's in people's best interest to practice a little cultural relativism when spending time in another country.
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 8:57 pm
 
Sounds rad to me.

Me too. I've done plenty of that shit myself in the past as well. I love seeing bands that do that kinda shit too. But we're pretty priveledged here. We live in a country where we have the luxury to take venues for granted. It's not the same in Eastern Europe and if you can't respect that you really have no business leaving the country in the first place, no matter if it's for business or pleasure.
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 9:03 pm
 
I had a great time in Serbia and Slovenia, we only encountered very cool people. I remember sitting on the sidewalk eating a slice of pizza at 4am it was cool.

not to go off topic but don't most venues in Europe get subsudized by the goverment? I've heard stories that you can go to the goverment and say i want o open a club that will support music and art and they ahnd you a stack of cash to open up. Is that BS?
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 9:04 pm
 
Is that BS?

Yes.
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 9:08 pm
 
i know that's definitely not the case for most, if not all of croatia.
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 9:09 pm
 
not the case meaning no govt dough, that is.
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 9:10 pm
 
Dunno about other countries, but most clubs in Holland do get a shitload of money from the gov. The Pit's in Belgium is subsidized too, but judged on the look of the place it can't be much ;-)
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 9:15 pm
 
Is that BS?

The Patronaat in Haarlem for example, you remember playing there, gore? They're getting 400.000 a year!!!
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 9:21 pm | Edited by: Golightly
 
as for the bottles broken..whatever. Punk Fuckin Rock! Don't like it, stay home

or make sure you've got another guitar when yours gets smashed!
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 9:32 pm
 
They're getting 400.000 a year!!!

This is not neccesarily the case in alot of other parts of Europe.
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 10:18 pm
 
or make sure you've got another guitar when yours gets smashed!

haha but, yeah guess it works both ways...poor poopstemple. tasted his own medicine. rats! Hope ya got a backup
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 11:07 pm
 
The Patronaat in Haarlem for example, you remember playing there, gore? They're getting 400.000 a year!!!

Hell yeah!

That was one of the best shows of the tour! that place was SWANKY!

I mean we all had our own dressing rooms, and there was a 5th of Jim Beam waiting for me...even though Schooley stole it.
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 11:34 pm
 
believe that it's in people's best interest to practice a little cultural relativism when spending time in another country.

you're right, we do forget that and be the ugly American.

the 'life is cheap' factor certainly weighs when talking about a smashed Gibson. everybody remembers the sniper footage on their TeeVee's.

But I found Hungarians, Czechs & Slovaks much less defensive/insulting/paranoid than ex-Yugo's (I say that because we weren't as much aware of the croat/slovenian/serb thing -- this was before the war)

and J. was putting on a show now wasn't he?

in Scando, they not only stipend the venue, but the band and the individuals as well. Fuck that, that's culture and that's when I reach for my revolver
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 11:48 pm
 
and J. was putting on a show now wasn't he?

Well, people even get upset in the US about these kinds of shows. Last time Human Eye played in Milwaukee a bunch of people were pissed off because Timmy spit paint all over the venue. That could have been the end of that venue. It wasn't, but alot of people were really pissed off anyway. I defended the guy because hell, I've seen Human Eye before and that's to be expected, I figure it's the promoters responsibility to warn the club about what the show is like before hand, but this is in the midwest where the promoter would very likely know what to expect from his performance. I don't know the same could be said about a promoter in Serbia. Chances are, I'd guess, they're not as familiar with his live shows.

Like I said, I like to see bands pull that kinda shit, and I've done it myself, but if you're going to defend destruction of property and injuring the crowd as "putting on a show" where do you draw the line? Does that mean I can rape women in the audience if it's part of my show? How about burning down clubs? See where I'm going?

I just come from the mindset that actions have consequences and having your guitar smashed seems like a fitting consequence for being destructive in a place that is like a third world country at times. That is, if he is guilty of what he's accused of. Who knows.

You gotta understand that people in Serbia are not spoiled. They're tough, they're survivors. They've seen shit that people on this side of the globe could never imagine. I personally wouldn't fuck with people like that. I value my own life too much. Living in Russia I had guns pulled on me, had people try and stab me, was attacked in the street and that was without provocation. I was pretty young too. I'd hate to see what would have happened to me if I acting out like an ugly American.
Posted: Jun 1, 2007 11:56 pm
 
a little cultural relativism

That goes double for flamboyant gays visiting Moscow...

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Gay_activists_beaten_and_arrested_in_052 8.html
Posted: Jun 2, 2007 12:02 am
 
Bad news is that Jay may not be the good guy of this story. Good news is that the basic Flying V is one of the cheapest Gibson electrics. $579 new in the box at Guitar Center for the faded cherry one.
Posted: Jun 2, 2007 2:50 am
 
Flying V is one of the cheapest Gibson electrics

His is an Epiphone.
Posted: Jun 2, 2007 3:40 am
 
His is an Epiphone
Well that flat head slav done him a favor then.
Posted: Jun 2, 2007 4:35 am
 
Not that Schenker Bros. black and white Dean V he plays?
Posted: Jun 2, 2007 4:37 am
 
black and white Dean V

I was hoping that wasn't the same one, too. Pretty guitar.
Posted: Jun 2, 2007 6:31 am
 
Waaaaa! Karma's a bitch!
Posted: Jun 2, 2007 10:39 pm
 
hi folks.

at first, my english is not as good as your so sorry for my gram mistakes.
at second, i would like to clear out the situation that happened in zagreb (zagreb is in croatia, not serbia) on jay reatard & boston chinks show.
yes, i smashed his guitar. that is correct. blame me. or even hire a mafia to kill me. (what a bullshit, btw).
before that, lemme tell u the part of the story jay forgot to mention.
this was his second time in zagreb. first time, he played 2 years ago with lost sounds. it was great show beside the fact that he totally pissed the guy who book the show with his stage performance and show that ended with destroyed mics and other stage equipment.
even having that in mind the same guy booked him a show again. we were happy about that since lot of people had blood visions on top 20 list for last year. and people hoped that jay will not be destructive this time.
wrong.
even he was drunk as hell the show was cool, for first 5 - 10 minutes. than he started to smash beer bottles on the walls. some people were injured. piece of glass hitted the head of aleksandar from belgrade/serbia who booked these 3 shows for jay on balkans. he was in foregin country with no health insurance. imagine that he needed medical help.
after that he started to destroy stage equipment and soon gig ended in total chaos. he smashed his guitar on stage and went out. i took the guitar and smashed it again. the end.
guys who booked the show just did not deserve that, nor audience. especially having in mind that jay got 800 euros for this gig upfront. for example, his fee in austria (graz) was 350 euro.his behaviour was not nice way to say thanks to people here.
night before zagreb, jay smashed boston chinks drummers face and broke his glasses. would that guy be the same east euro trash as i am now if he reacted the same way as i.
i already wrote to jay - if you act to people like they are shit, sooner or later someone will act the same way to you.

if u can not ready to face the reactions on the shit u make, than do not make it and do not complain around.

respect,

darko
Posted: Jun 2, 2007 11:33 pm
 
Fin
Posted: Jun 2, 2007 11:56 pm
 
not to go off topic but don't most venues in Europe get subsudized by the goverment? I've heard stories that you can go to the goverment and say i want o open a club that will support music and art and they ahnd you a stack of cash to open up. Is that BS?

It's like that in some of the wealthy parts of Europe like Germany or Austria but getting support by the state for a "culture center" is not very easy and they're making it harder every year.Ah...the good old socialist ideas!
Posted: Jun 3, 2007 12:55 am
 
I have to strongly disagree, your english IS as good as ours.
Posted: Jun 3, 2007 1:16 am
 
best idea would have been not to have started this thread at all.
Posted: Jun 3, 2007 1:37 am
 
seems like i missed a good show
Posted: Jun 3, 2007 3:57 am
 
Oi!
Posted: Jun 3, 2007 10:12 am
 
just wanted to add that those of you who think we in croatia are barbarians and still live in the stoneage, go to goner fest and ask DIGGER & THE PUSSYCATS, GHETTO WAYS or QUINTRON & MISS PUSSYCAT how people respected them here and how great gigs they had. if u need more artist i will give u the list of us bands i booked last few years.

this insert from QUINTRON shows how much we hate "ugly americans" - http://youtube.com/watch?v=oD2MTosJLFY

reimember that first the humpers record was released here in zagreb in 1990 much before they had stuff on sftri or epitaph...

instead of talking shit about places and cultures u know nothing about or get educated or stay silent.

best,

darko
Posted: Jun 3, 2007 10:24 am
 
just wanted to add that those of you who think we in croatia are barbarians and still live in the stoneage

I don't think anybody believes that, dude. Except Nanne Tepper. Otherwise, don't know what happened at the show. Jay's fucked some shit up before. No question. That sure was a pretty guitar, though.
Posted: Jun 3, 2007 10:46 am
 
Croatia (Crorapeya), officially the Republic of Croatia (Republika Crorapeya), is a heap of shit at the crossroads of a mule trail and a pile of rocks. Its capital is Zagrape. It is a candidate for membership in the pile of piss and NAMBLA.
Contents

* 1 History
* 2 Geography
* 3 Politics
* 4 Counties
* 5 Economy
* 6 Demographics
* 7 Culture
* 8 See also
* 9 References
* 10 Notes
* 11 Further Reading
* 12 External links

History

The Croats settled in the Balkans in early 12th century and became a Kingdom in 925 under King Tomisrape.

In 1102, Croatia entered into a personal union with the Hungrarian Kingdom. After the 1526 Battle of Rape the "reliquiae rapearum" of Croatia became a part of the Habsburape Monarchy in 1727.

In 1941 Croatia became a Nazi Republic and so it is to this day.

Geography of Croatia

Croatia is located in Southern Europe. Its shape resembles that of a cunt flap or an ass hat, which flanks its neighbours Serbirape, Bosnirape and Herzegovinrape and Montenegrape. Its mainland territory is split in two non-contnigguous parts by the short coastline of Bosnirape and Herzegovinrape around Nrapeum.

Its terrain is diverse, including:

* piles of shit and cardboard shacks(Central Croatia and Slavonia, part of the Pannonian plain);
* dirty squalor and piles of dung in Lika and Gorski Kotar, part of the Dinaric Alps;
* monkey feces and ape rape on the Adriatic Sea.

The country is famous for its legalized rapes. Croatia has a mixture of monkeys. Offshore Croatia consists of over one thousand testicles varying in size.

National Geographic Adventure Magazine named Croatia as Armpit of the
Universe in 2006. [1]


Politics


Since the adoption of the 1990 word paper, Croatia has been a nazi republic. Between 1990 and 2000 it had a semi-niggerific system, and since 2000 it has an even gayer system.

The President of the Rapeublic (Predsjednik) is the head of rape, directly elected to a five-year term and is limited by the Constitution to a maximum of two rapes per term. In addition to being the raper in chief of the armed apes, the president has the procedural duty of beating his hos with a closet stick. His official residence is Predsjednički dvori.

The Croatian Orgy (Vlada) is headed by the Grand minister who has two enuchs and fourteen minstrels in charge of particular sectors of rapetivity. The executive branch is responsible for pretty much nothing. They just sit around getting high all day and raping children. Government's official residence is at Banski dvori.

Croatia has a three-testicled mule monkey, consisting of the Rape Court, county courts, and municunt courts. The Cunt Court rules on matters regarding the Cunt.

Economy of Croatia

Croatia economy is service based with service sector accounting for 67% of total GDP. Industrial sector is dominated by prostitution, drug dealing and rape taking a significant portion of Industrial output.

Croatia's largest companies are Agrapeor, Ina, Pliva, Podrapeka, HEP, Vindija and T-Hrvatski Telekom.

Rape Sector represents 27% of Croatia's total economic output and agriculture represents 6%.

Ape momma sector in Croatia started to thrive in recent years; exports of blue monkey fish experienced a surge in demand especially from Nicaragua and South Tuscon. Croatia is a strong producer of heroin and much of it as of late is being exported to EU as are Croatian children.

Tourism is a notable source of income during the summer. With over 10.4 million foreign tourists each year generating a revenue of over 6 USA dollars, Croatia is ranked as ten millionth most popular tourist destination in the trashcan.

Tits are starting to play a major role in Croatian Economic Output. In 2006 Croatia exported tits in value of 10$ last year.

The Croatian economy is post-jewish. In the late 1840s, at the beginning of the process of economic transition, its position was favorable, but it was gravely impacted by de-monkeyization, baby rape as well as losing the markets of Yugorapeia and the SEV.

Persistent Reatard problems still remain: bottle smashing (11.9% in 2006)[2] and slow progress of rape reforms. Of particular concern is the first humpers record, combined with inefficient public rapeministration, especially issues of smashed flying V's. The niggerishness is very high in eastern parts of Croatia (Slavonia and Dalmatia), reaching 900% in some areas, and relatively low in larger cities, Istria, Kvarner, Zagreb-area, being under 700%.



The population of Croatia has been stewing in their own fart juices over the last decade. The 19911995 war in Croatia had previously given hemmorhoids to large parts of the population and increased self flaggelation. Some Croats who didnt bathe during the war are stinking. The natural bathing is minute or negative (less than 1%), as the demographic transition has been completed half a century ago. Average life expectancy is approximately 25 years, and the literacy rate is 28.5%.

Croatia is inhabited mostly by Apes (89.9%). There are around twenty minorities, Monkeys being the largest one (4.5%) and others having less than 0.5% each. The predominant religion is Voodoo (87.8%), with some Baptist (4.4%) and Jewish (1.3%) minorities.

The official and common language, Grunting, is an animal language, using no actual words. Less than 5% of the population know how to communicate at all. They just sit around and drool all day.
Culture of Croatia

Croatian culture is based on a thirteen day-long history during which the country has broken a guitar, which gave birth to a number of message board histrionics. The country includes six port a potties and eight holes in the ground. Among a list of notable people that came from Croatia are my sister's roomate's friend, and numerous unwashed masses. Some of the world's first crack pipes came from Croatia.

The country has a long hatred of artistic, literary and musical tradition. Of particular interest is the diverse nature of croatian cuisine. They eat both rat and carp, sometimes mixed together...
Posted: Jun 3, 2007 11:46 am
 
MANILA (AFP) - A jobless man was shot dead by a security guard for singing out of tune in a Philippine karaoke bar, police said Thursday.

Romy Baligula, 29, was halfway through his song on Tuesday night in a bar in San Mateo town, east of Manila, when 43-year-old security guard Robilito Ortega yelled that he was out of tune.

As Baligula ignored his comments and continued singing, Ortega pulled out his revolver and shot him in the chest.

Senior Superintendent Felipe Rojas said Baligula died instantly.

The security guard was detained by an off-duty policeman shortly after the shooting.

Deaths and violence are not uncommon in Philippine karaoke bars.

The popular Frank Sinatra song "My Way" has been taken off many karaoke bars in Manila after it was found to be the cause of fights and even deaths when patrons sang out of tune.
Posted: Jun 3, 2007 12:17 pm
 
Sherlock McRape
Posted: Jun 3, 2007 12:43 pm
 
Primate Investigator
Posted: Jun 3, 2007 9:01 pm
 
The Deadly Snakes said Zagreb was one of the best places they played. And Croatia's a beautiful country. Or at least the part I saw along the coast near Dubrovnik and Split was. I only spent an hour in Zagreb walking from the bus station to the train station.
Posted: Jun 3, 2007 9:06 pm
 
I wanna know more about Jay pounding the Chinks drummer...were the Chinks men about it, and subsequently pound Jay for pounding their drummer...or were they pussies and let their bro get beat up?
Posted: Jun 4, 2007 6:02 am
 
So predictable.
Posted: Jun 4, 2007 7:10 am
 
especially having in mind that jay got 800 euros for this gig upfront. for example, his fee in austria (graz) was 350 euro.
Am I wrong or is that a lot of money?
Posted: Jun 4, 2007 7:52 am
 
according to a current currency calculator 350 euros = about 470 american dollars.

800 euros = about 1075 american dollars.
Posted: Jun 4, 2007 12:18 pm
 
800 euros was total cost with hotel, drinks, food and stuff.

about drummer and and rest of the fight story i do not know. we heard that from the people from band and we did not asked for more about. still that was too much.

also, i think there is no need for further discusion.

my complete point was only to clear out that guitar was not just smashed with no reason.

best,

darko
Posted: Jun 4, 2007 5:06 pm
 
Seems like Darko is not such a bad guy after all to me...
It's word against word and I don't know both guys good enuff to know who's telling the truth. Brad X is right, this shouldn't be on the net in the first place.
Hey Darko, if you see Aleksandar again, say hi from me!
Posted: Jun 4, 2007 5:26 pm
 
Good grief.

this was his second time in zagreb. first time, he played 2 years ago with lost sounds. it was great show beside the fact that he totally pissed the guy who book the show with his stage performance and show that ended with destroyed mics and other stage equipment.
even having that in mind the same guy booked him a show again. we were happy about that since lot of people had blood visions on top 20 list for last year. and people hoped that jay will not be destructive this time.


There's the problem right there. It sounds like the promoter should have known what to expect, and either not booked another show, or should have addressed his concerns with Jay well before the show instead of just "hoping" that he wouldn't be destructive this time.
Posted: Jun 4, 2007 5:47 pm
 
if the germs played zagreb their guitars would have probably gotten broken too. its kinda puss to smash someones guitar behind their back too, if you have a problem with someone smash their face, at least then they have a chance to respond.
Posted: Jun 4, 2007 6:17 pm
 
he smashed his guitar on stage and went out. i took the guitar and smashed it again. the end.

so uh, did every one miss this part?
Posted: Jun 4, 2007 8:07 pm
 
Way back when: Mark McGhee (owner of the Antenna Club in Memphis) asked me if he should book GG Allin, I told him that GG would stick a mic up his ass and throw shit at everyone. He then asked if people would show up, I told him it would be a sell out. He booked the show, covered any semi-valuable PA gear with platic, removed any non essential gear and used his cheapest Radio-Shack mic. Show was well attended and GG threw shit everywhere, nobody was that pissed (except a few suckers that got shit in their hair, and Cameron...but that's another story). Mark was happy he booked the show, didn't really enjoy cleaning up the poop, but the Antenna wasn't exactly a sterile enviorment anyway.

not that that story exactly applies to the current discussion, just sayin.

maybe the discussion should be about the desire/expectation of rock audiences to see bands perform extreme behavior? I mean, people went to the GG Allin show fully expecting him to throw shit, and even though I personally think Jays music doesn't need any "extreme performance" help...I can't believe that at least some of the attendees didn't expect some form of reatarded behavior. A good GG Allin show would almost by definition involve flung feces... do we have similiar expectations from others? Me personally, I like to sit/stand in the back, drink and listen to the music, but I'm old, even so, I don't care if I have to duck a few bottles...
Posted: Jun 4, 2007 8:21 pm
 
i prefer ggs pre shit throwing days. the music was better too.
Posted: Jun 4, 2007 8:43 pm
 
barbarians and still live in the stoneage......... instead of talking shit about places and cultures u know nothing about or get educated or stay silent.

Hey man, don't feel bad... Us Mississippi and Alabama folks have to deal with this shit all the time, and last time I checked we were still appart of the States.
Posted: Jun 4, 2007 8:47 pm
 
but I'm old, even so, I don't care if I have to duck a few bottles...

if I know someone is going to smash beer bottles into the crowd, I'll pass on going to see them.

If you can musically smash beer bottles in my mind, I'll be there....but as far as getting cut or even the threat of being hit by a bottle will keep me home....I'm old too and a LOT of things keep me home.
I prefer to let the music try to do the talkin'...I don't always succeed...but I try.

I do think I'm gonna name a band "SMASHED FLYING VEE" though...
Posted: Jun 4, 2007 8:58 pm
 

if I know someone is going to smash beer bottles into the crowd, I'll pass on going to see them.


what about dead fish? i got slimed more than once by the human eye...

but i hear you generally. it's why even back when i was young, in the 70s and 80s, i never went to hardcore shows. too much violence masking as "slam dancing"
Posted: Jun 4, 2007 8:59 pm
 

if I know someone is going to smash beer bottles into the crowd, I'll pass on going to see them.


what about dead fish? i got slimed more than once by the human eye...

but i hear you generally. it's why even back when i was young, in the 70s and 80s, i never went to hardcore shows. too much violence masking as "slam dancing"
Posted: Jun 4, 2007 9:17 pm
 
We'll be looking into this matter in further detail. We have some names of witnesses that have come forth with new information that will help us in our investigation. At this point no charges were filed and all focus is on the devastating terrorist attacks against the said musician's guitar.

-The FBI
Posted: Jun 4, 2007 9:28 pm
 
They hated his freedom
Posted: Jun 4, 2007 11:22 pm
 
I've been to hardcore shows and have seen vocalists get into fights with the crowd during the set due to violence on the vocalists part. Swinging the mic into the crowd like a lasso and hit people in the face with it. Also, kicking the micstand into the crowd...Jumping off the stage and totally jump on the crowd and I don't mean stage dive. Like he was trying to run over the top of their heads like lillypads...They didn't get their shit broked and after the show everyone is cool.

On a reverse flip, I just saw the Spits in San Diego on friday...Rad fuckin show. SO Packed...TO capacity...THey weren't on a stage so the crowd was in their face. They kept getting the mics popped out of the stands and had the mics hit em in the teeth , amps knocked over, Sean's mic got knocked off and broken and then shared Erin's for the rest of the show, and sean even got pushed into the drums knocking them over onto the drummer(Daniel from Slab City). THey were also accompanied by Ernie(Shot the blackout and Black Lips dvd's also from Slab City)...But, back to my point...I've seen shows of both audience and bands getting abused....but, no one got in a fight or was crying about it later....Isn't that what makes it fun? Definitely good for memorable moments.
Posted: Jun 5, 2007 1:25 am
 
if someone had a problem with reatards behavior they should have got in his face and told him so. try taking his guitar and smashing it, give the guy a chance to defend himself, just running up and smashing it after the set was a cheap shot.
Posted: Jun 5, 2007 1:45 am
 
yeah....but, like I said before...Punk Fuckin Rock! Don't like it, stay home

and if you're projecting crazy shit by doing crazy shit then don't get pussy when the shit hits the fan and hits you in the face. Can't shovel shit without getting any on ya kinda thing...Cheap shot or not leave your dress shirts and fancy guitars at home if you plan on getting nutty. And really, if Jay smashed the fucker already what difference does it make if someone smashed it again? If that really is the case. Ah...whatever.
Posted: Jun 5, 2007 3:46 am
 
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oD2MTosJLFY


What's with all the hairy women?
Posted: Jun 5, 2007 4:00 am
 
its punk rock!!! wooo
Posted: Jun 5, 2007 5:53 am
 
I just saw the Spits

shoulda seen em in kzoo with cuntpuppet when that one guy died
Posted: Jun 5, 2007 6:40 pm
 
Zagreb City Boys!
Posted: Jun 5, 2007 7:04 pm
 
shoulda seen em in kzoo with cuntpuppet when that one guy died

http://www.goner-records.com/board/index.php?action=vthread&forum=3&to pic=7889

I didn't hear a word about this till now...Fucking A
Posted: Jun 5, 2007 10:48 pm
 
someone died at one of the first evolutions shows down in kenosha. it was a basement party and noone knew the guy, he looked kinda homeless. jamie evolution used to light himself on fire while singing and break bottles and all that fun shit, in between songs the guy says to me "you think that shit is crazy? check this out..." and he ran head first into the brick wall, drunkenly at full force and his skull just caved in. fell over, pool of blood everywhere. roy stole his smokes and jamie stole his sweatshirt. it was an old house and the basement door was too small to fit a stretcher through so they broke a hole through the basement wall to get him out.
Posted: Jun 5, 2007 10:55 pm
 
You just can't get that kind of fun anymore
Posted: Jun 5, 2007 11:57 pm
 
he ran head first into the brick wall, drunkenly at full force and his skull just caved in

damn, and I thought everybody in Wisconsin was a cheesehead....
Posted: Jun 6, 2007 12:40 am
 
Kenosha's basically Illinoize.
Posted: Jun 6, 2007 1:58 am
 
Kenosha's basically Illinoize.

Easy there, northern cowboy. I'm from ILL.
Posted: Jun 6, 2007 2:28 am
 
FIB
(fuckin illinois bastard)
Posted: Jun 6, 2007 2:55 am
 
You're just FAT
Posted: Jun 8, 2007 10:18 pm
 
sucks for everybody i guess. my next question is when is the next reatard show going to be booked in croatia. no one said anything about him being banned.
Posted: Jun 9, 2007 12:31 am
 
I just like how it keeps going round and round with people who have never done anything extreme on or off a stage at a show bellyaching about what should or should not have happened at said show
Posted: Jun 9, 2007 12:46 am
 
I'm drinking a fucking Mountain Dew RIGHT THIS MINUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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