i think i've done the impossible and managed to finally exhaust my supply. i need something new that's not some anticon or mush derivative but haven't found much. suggestions...?

let banned answer this one. he like hop.

You should check out some of those rap-rock hybrids. like Limp Bizkit.

http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/category2/65/a/Rap.htm
this should help

Whatever you do, DO NOT get that Young Buck. I heard it on the radio and it sucks. I have no idea what full length record is any good these days with hip hop/rap. The most recent stuff I was into was Lil Wayne--The Carter Vol II is gooooooood. There is the more recent Lil Wayne/Birdman comp...also good, the coupla things I have heard. There are single tracks on the radio by Young Jeezy, Yung Joc and god knows who else, that are actually entertaining as hell, but novelties really. That is all good for me...I am really not into all that backpack hip hop.

Here's some really essential stuff, mostly from the 90's...I can give more if you like:

Blackalicious
MF Doom
KMD
Kool Keith/Dr. Octagon/Black Elvis, etc.
Foreign Legion
Jedi Mind Tricks
A Tribe Called Quest
Akrobatik
De La Soul
Hieroglyphics
Gravediggaz
People Under the Stairs
Alkaholiks (first 3 albums)
Mobb Deep (first few albums)
Pharcyde
Gang Starr
J-Zone
J-Live
Akrobatik

(this is underground stuff btw...not crunk/dirty south/no limit/jiggy shit-garbage)

Esham
Natas
Snaps volume 5

Talib Kweli
Mos Def
Immortal Technique
Black Star
Dead Prez

no.

outkast
and
method man

De La Soul - ANYTHING!
Gravediggaz - HELL YEAH!
Pharcyde - AND FATLIP's SOLO! GET the SINGLE OF WHATS UP FATLIP?
Gang Starr - FULL CLIP!

Charley just bought the new MIMS album...its okay. Its got "This is why I'm Hot" track...

I like to do "Baby got Back" and the "Humpty Dance" karoake. I'm very good at both.

WHODINI!!! Go old skool!

THE FREAKS COME OUT AT NIGHT!!!
THE FREAKS COME OUT AT NIIIIGHT!!!

angus why come you ain't doin hip hop?

This is pretty sick.

thats a tight jam yo

angus why come you ain't doin hip hop?


I was just talkin bout that actually. Notorious B.U.R.N.T.

i got your beats on lock nigga

word.

1. dcr, please stop talking like that. it sickens me.
2. i've pretty much got old skool covered. and i've got my gangsta/hardcore/mafioso down.
3. i'm looking for more underground stuff like tapecase was saying. mos def, gang starr, dr. octagon, aesop rock, atmosphere, blackalicious, and the like. though those aren't so much underground anymore. still. something along those lines...

step off my dick, woman!

dcr, please stop talking like that. it sickens me.

yea.

alla y'all need to step

snowgoons

jedi mind tricks

abstract rude

cannibal ox

grayskul

I haven't heard a whole lot of recent stuff, but Ghostface killah's "the Champ" on Fishscale, is pretty awesome.

stop frontin' DCR...I'm the playa. Fo rillz!

just kiddin'

I'm not a playa...

I just crush a lot...

spank rock is the only new stuff i've gotten into in years it seems.. used to listen to a lot of it in the 90s but there ain't none much good no more..

but really, banned is the only one qualified to post on this thread

Get that Immortal Technique disc that came out a few years ago, I forget what it's called, Revolutonary something or other.....

The one about promoters with the line, "Without me--and people like me--you ain't nuthin' but a good idea motherfucker!" Classic

N-O-T-O-R-I-O....U-S you best lay down slow.

PS. Bill, you askes who my 2nd fat crush was. Biggie, no contest.

Also Necros is fun, because there's tons of thrash metal legends guesting and 80's thrash metal artists doing his artwork and he does funny porn.

Necro sp

You might like Edan.

Birfdays used to be the worse days, but now we drink champagne when we're thir-stay

Few more:

Apathy
Celph Titled
Loot Pack
Moka Only
Binkis
Styles of Beyond
Emanon
El Da Sensei
Louis Logic
Last Emporer
L-Fudge
Blue Scholars (the only good hip-hop I've heard that's come out in the past few years)
Busdriver
R.A. The Rugged Man
Madlib

but really, banned is the only one qualified to post on this thread

pffft.

Busdriver

that guy came to my house once when me an angus scrimm were cooking a shoulder.

he seemed like a nice nerdy carlton like black guy

then i guess he made out with this stupid girl we know. according to her anyway.

but really, banned is the only one qualified to post on this thread

pffft.


NO, REALLY!!!!!!!!!#@!$#@%@$%$#@%

GETO BOYS is all you need

Paris and Gangsta NIP is good too I guess

WC and the Maad Circle

NO, REALLY!!!!!!!!!#@!$#@%@$%$#@%

Excuse me sir, but I'm hell of down with all of the freshest MC's.

GETO BOYS is all you need

it's about time sombody said it.

Busdriver

that guy came to my house once when me an angus scrimm were cooking a shoulder.

he seemed like a nice nerdy carlton like black guy

then i guess he made out with this stupid girl we know. according to her anyway.

This story sounds far fetched...but I can attest to it as well. The visiting your house part anyway... I can see him gettin some from said "stupid girl" though...I believe it. I'm just glad that I got to play "give a cop a cookie" on the guitar in the middle of the night for that guy. I hope he remembers that.

he probably remembers making out with frankenboobs more

i like busdriver. he's funny as shit. i like a lot of the stuff listed above too.

i lived in cincinnati for awhile and they have an AMAZING hiphop scene there. it's like what memphis & goner is to garage stuff, cincinnati and scribble and mr. dibbs is to hiphop, i venture to say. i used to go to scribble jam every year for a while and probably will go again this year. it's great. i'm really into the stuff but don't have my ear to the ground on it as much as i used to when i lived there. but i can give you a list of stuff that i think is worth a listen to.


glue (hands fucking down the best i've heard in a long time)
quit your dead end job (which is adeem maker from glue and sol.illaquists of sound)
sandpeople
atmosphere
murs
soul posiition
mood (from cincinnati)
felt
blackstar (mos def and talib kweli's project)
the roots
lyrics born
pigeon john

there's more, but i'm tired and i don't feel like going through my cd/record collection to look. sorry. hehe.

not crunk/dirty south/no limit/jiggy shit-garbage

While No Limit may fairly be called "garbage" and jiggy is well, I don't know what you're saying there exactly as it is 2007, it is patently ignorant to lump "crunk/dirty south" as "shit garbage." Open those ears, son. You just might actually find yourself having a good time. Which the rap/hip hop scene needs to find itself doing bigtime with all this boring intellectual shit out there. If I wanna get serious, I got a stack of fucking books.

Eric B. and Rakim
Big Daddy Kane
Kid Flash
'Lil Troy

I bet you, Hugh Jass, had the cassingle for "Back to Da Hotel" by N2 Deep!

it is patently ignorant to lump "crunk/dirty south" as "shit garbage."

it's patently ignorant to have a general opinion on a genre of music? I've heard enough crunk music to come to the conclusion that it is shit. Sure maybe there's one or two in the 5 billion songs that I might like, but I'm not going to waste my time trying to find it.

You just might actually find yourself having a good time. Which the rap/hip hop scene needs to find itself doing bigtime with all this boring intellectual shit out there.

I have a fantastic time listening to the shit that I mentioned. I find it patently ignorant that you lump all the artists I listed as "intellectual shit". I choose hip-hop based on the beats, and how well the lyrics flow with the beat. I really could give a shit what they're saying. Besides, 95% of everyone I mentioned isn't going out of their way to sound intelligent. You would know that if you actually listened to it.

You contradict yourself and I suppose I did as well. I actually have and do listen to much of what you listed and some of it, I actually like and liked and some of it, I would say is some of my favorite hip hop out there. So, yeah, I am more open-minded about it than my previous post obviously led you to believe.

But I gotta stand up for the rest...I do think the purposely bizarre/snotty/backpack/DJ-oriented/skateboards etc hip hop scene holds about one smidgen of the humor and fun of the most mediocre crunk/dirty south rap. That fact alone makes crunk/dirty south not garbage as a whole to me. That was my point to you...but like whatcha like, I am just defending that other corner a bit. Some people (such as myself) like both corners, but I get a little sick of the "esoteric for esoteric's sake" stuff.

Try Dead Prez--smart, Southern-via-NY, political, creative and clever. And funny too from time to time.

Ghostface killah's "the Champ" on Fishscale,

Agreed. Same with "Kilo" from the same lp.

oh yeah
DJ Quik gots ta git sum play two

Ok saispas, lets hug.

esoteric for esoteric's sake

Esoteric, another good MC.

oh man i love ghostface killah. have you heard that song by prefuse 73 he's featured on, hideyaface? sooooo good

Has anybody on here heard "3 days later" by Kool Moe Dee?

ha ha ha

My favorite lines:

"Woke up fussin
Yellin' and cussin
Drip drip drippin and pus pus pussin
Went to the bathroom and said mamma Mia gonna KILL that girl next time I see her!"

i dont lissen to nigga music, g.

dead prez- rbg
acealone- book of life
abstract rude
nas- hip hop is dead

BONER BILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Hey Everyone! This is my rap and my life biography for real I swear 2 Jesus or God...I was born on Monday June 2nd 1986 at 6:49 AM in the Moncton Hospital...I did my 1st rap song on paper with a crayon in 1993 when I was 7 years old...and now I got 2500 different tunes of GBB...GBB stands for Gangsta and Goof also known as Bill Bizzle aka Boner Bill...so it's GBB to put it more simple...fo shizzle...but I ain't got a record deal just yet...

speak the hungarian rapper
URL
or reh dogg
URL

a lot of what was said is good. i guess it depends on what you are looking for. my favorite right now is bigg jus
Illustrations of Hieronymus Bosch
one of my favorite cds of 2006 was cunnylinguists cd, piece of strange, this track has a great arthur brown sample
other great shit out now is Devin the Dude, if you aren't familiar with him he is like the combo of slick rick and too short. he's been around putting out albums on rap-a-lot since the mid 90s. Just Tryin to Live is the best, i think, but his new one, "waiting to inhale" is pretty great. just about all the songs are about smoking weed and getting pussy. that might sound like a limited subject matter but just about all his songs great.
also from houston as well, z-ro, live and times of joesph mcvey is really good,
joe buddens mood muzik mixtape is great, that's from a few years ago, but i guess it all depends on what you are looking for.

here's a devin the dude track from trying to live


"i'm rolling, car not stolen, probably never will be, much too old n, smoking weed, n feeling fine in my lac-ville 79.."

See if you can't track down this. You'd have to get someone to burn copies or pay mightily for it if you find it (there are three volumes), but it's an essential with much that wasn't/isn't mainstream.

Kid Koala is still doing outstanding stuff with his turntables. If you're into independent hip-hop, you might also want to check out some of the people on Counterflow Recordings - it's a local Miami label that puts out some pretty amazing stuff from an international roster of M.C.s and D.J.s (Pharoahe Monch, Five Deez, Doodlebug, etc.). Of course, they put out the Algorithm Crew record too, so they're not exactly infallible.

Victor and I were hanging out at a Winter Music Conference show a few years ago and trying to explain how awesome Passion of the Christ was to Maneuverz (the D.J. for the famously bad local crew Def to the General Public), when Counterflow's very own Serum stepped into the conversation to set us straight on a few things. I believe the exchange went something like this...

Me: I can't believe they beat the shit out of Our Lord like that.
Victor: You don't even understand - Our Lord got his ass whooped for like, 2 hours straight...
Maneuverz: [skeptical] Really? I didn't know it went down like that.
Me: I was all like, "What did Our Lord ever do to anyone to deserve getting all fucked up like that?" I mean, they really fucked Our Lord up.
Victor: He ain't lying - Our Lord gets fucked up dirty style in that movie.
Maneuverz: [impressed] Damn! Maybe I need to check that out...
Me: For real, though, you'll be like, "Bro! I gotta get to mass tomorrow bro, because Our Lord got the shit kicked out of him like a little punk-ass bitch for our sins!"
Serum: [irritated] That's all fairy tales and nonsense, son - you gotta stop getting all up on this God shit and start thinking for yourself.
Me: But Serum, you don't understand - they really fucked up Our Lord, like with a whip and shit...

C.X. Kidtronik
Food For Animals


seriously. check the shit out.

Quote
i lived in cincinnati for awhile and they have an AMAZING hiphop scene there. it's like what memphis & goner is to garage stuff, cincinnati and scribble and mr. dibbs is to hiphop, i venture to say. i used to go to scribble jam every year for a while and probably will go again this year. it's great. i'm really into the stuff but don't have my ear to the ground on it as much as i used to when i lived there. but i can give you a list of stuff that i think is worth a listen to.


Troof.

I too have lived in the Nasty and have been to SkribbleJam. eel shit, But that town still sucks though....

Fuck it, get the Big Apple Rappin comps (fitty percent sick), some EPMD, some Public Enemy, and smoke a 'mo......

But that town still sucks though....

amen to that. hence why i moved. i don't miss much about cincinnati other than hiphop, thai express, and a few friends.

crap that was me, not alix. sorry!!!

Edan "Beauty and the Beat"

Good, but slightly overrated.

Anyone heard new El-P?


crap that was me, not alix


Are you ladies trying on each other's usernames' again?

chronicles of narnia - parnell and sandborn

Are you ladies trying on each other's usernames' again?

she's my roommate.

the new el-p? i like his old stuff, but i have yet to hear his new album. it any good???

Man fuck rap music. Its the worst fucking noise ever !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good, but slightly overrated.

I think it's great, but I did hear some girl try to say it was one of the best albums of all time, and that kinda grossed me out.

Man fuck rap music. Its the worst fucking noise ever

I think you just say that to freak people out since you're black. that's pretty punk!

Dälek
incredible lyrics, beats, and soundscapes.

experimental/real hip hop at its finest. just actually sit down and listen to an album from them. they make complete albums...

thank me later

The new El-P is boring. It's not BAD, but it didn't do anything for me the couple times I listened to it. It's no Fantastic Damage.

Dalek rules. But it's not for the "purist." If you like Godflesh, you'd like Dalek.

The Edan album is really good, but it got a lot of hype cuz it uses 60s psych-rock samples and shit, and that makes people get a little tizzy. I think his next shit will be even better.

It hurts to type, but look at me: Masochist.


FREESTYLE FELLOWSHIP - Inner City Griots

J Dilla's Donuts had a lot of air time at my house, but I'll concede it may not be a hip hop record. I do like the first Chrome Children, thought V. 2 was weak.

Fu Stamp - the real deal!
http://www.myspace.com/fustamp

and of course The Heavy Metal Warrior aka AK-47!
http://www.myspace.com/bighmw
http://www.bighmw.com/

Most stuff produced by The Bomb Squad....

P.U.B.L.I.C. E.N.E.M.Y

S.O.N. O.F. B.A.Z.E.R.K.

chronicles of narnia - parnell and sandborn

double true..

Most stuff produced by The Bomb Squad....

Amerikkka's Most Wanted!

PASS THAT CRONIC!

Jneiro Jarel "Three Piece Puzzle." Also check out his instrumental project Dr. Who Dat.

Benji B on BBC 1Xtra plays a lot of hip-hop stuff you might like ...

WHAT?!

CLES OF NARNIA!!

Man fuck rap music. Its the worst fucking noise ever

I think you just say that to freak people out since you're black. that's pretty punk!


Bazooka Joe I am dead serious. I dont think I can put into words how much I fucking hate rap music. I think its worst than terrorism, the 9/11 attacks and Osomba Bin Laddin. Thats how much I hate that fucking noise.

I was kidding, but I'm sorry you feel that way, music hater!

I dont think I can put into words how much I fucking hate rap music.
i would say that about most po(o)p rap. i'm not the biggest fan or really know anything about it, but there are some dudes out there doing brilliant shit. shit i wish i had come up with. i think some of that stuff is right in line with the bird and mingus and diz

i think some of that stuff is right in line with the bird and mingus and diz


you might wanna rethink that.

Like Steven Seagal
I'm hard to kill
And like G.G. Allen
I'm crazy ill
I'll beat ya down with my mic
Kick your ass with my Nike
Bust ya in the eye
If ya tell another lie
Ashes to ashes, dust to dust
Thinkin' I'm dead
You must be smokin' dust
Come see me bust in the flesh
It's a must

rethink that.
nope.
different sound, same idea.

only on the most obtuse level.

Obtuse level?
is that, like, underground?

we did a 7" with a local freestyler. turned out pretty good but unfortunately i know shit about distro in this genre. plus i got no street cred whatsoever as a hip hop label.

http://www.robshouserecords.com/Zano-AssBirth.mp3

Obtuse level?

"Obtuse Levelz"

Their new, self-titled concept LP is based on their favorite class at Benjamin Banneker HS (Geometry) in a comfortably middle class neighborhood in LI. The members of Obtuse Levelz, who shall remain nameless because they'd just have to change their entire personalities and accompanying names by this summer, look forward to playing before a mostly white crowd in Portland, OR and Colorado Springs, CO this spring! Get Obtuse!

To me the fact that rapper are making huge profits off of calling women "bitches" and "ho" is beyond sexist, its sick and disgusting.

All rappers are fucking pigs

To me the fact that rapper are making huge profits off of calling women "bitches" and "ho" is beyond sexist, its sick and disgusting.

yes.

All rappers are fucking pigs

no.

epmd - strictly business
eric b and rakim - paid in full
eightball and mjg - comin out hard
rbl posse - a lesson to be learned
slick rick - art of storytelling

Boogie Down Productions -KRS-One-Criminal Minded
-Ghetto Music:The Blueprint of Hip-Hop
Public Enemy-It takes a Nation Of Miliions to Hold Us Back
-Fear of a Black Planet
N.W.A.-Straight out of Compton
Hope this helps! Keeping it classic

-Ghetto Music:The Blueprint of Hip-Hop

incredible. There's three BDP gold LP's on the wall across from me right now (brag thread?). That's one of 'em.

WOOHOO!!

What about too short? Life is too short is a great album!

no.

I forgot you know everything! What was I thinking? I take it back now that I know I don't have your approval.

All rappers are fucking pigs

keep in mind, there are definite distinctions between rap and hip-hop. i won't bother to enumerate them, but they're there. despite my love of rap's kitsch entertainment value, i can neither excuse nor defend the people who make it. although, to my band mates' everlasting shame, i have been found guilty of endorsing brands like makaveli so i can sport shoes that feature tupac's face on hundred dollar bills.

I forgot you know everything! What was I thinking? I take it back now that I know I don't have your approval.


good one. you ain't been around here long enough to have learned that i know everything or whther or not you need my approval. i love when my reputaion preceeds me like that.

To me the fact that rapper are making huge profits off of calling women "bitches" and "ho" is beyond sexist, its sick and disgusting.

All rappers are fucking pigs


oh brother! and there's no "sexism" in rock'n'roll too. If you cut sexism out you'd be left with a pretty lame seedee collection...

keep in mind, there are definite distinctions between rap and hip-hop. i won't bother to enumerate them, but they're there. despite my love of rap's kitsch entertainment value, i can neither excuse nor defend the people who make it. although, to my band mates' everlasting shame, i have been found guilty of endorsing brands like makaveli so i can sport shoes that feature tupac's face on hundred dollar bills.

bray:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rap

I dont think I can put into words how much I fucking hate rap music.

i don't wanna sound like a dick, but for the most part i'm not convinced people really know what they're talking about when they attach the word "music" to rap. like when a teacher pronounces mature "ma-toor."

and wikipedia makes mistakes too, you know. keep in mind that it's a collaborative work.

this sounds like a high school english teacher in the 1950's first looking at Howl


Public Enemy is music, in the same sense that flipper and hasil adkins and the shaggs are

because they rock steady and hard

Hasil was anything but steady.

was he hard?

hard assed

[i]i don't wanna sound like a dick, but for the most part i'm not convinced people really know what they're talking about when they attach the word "music" to rap.

isn't that what the ol' dotards said about R'n'R is the 50s?

maybe in the sense that rnr was just considered to be noise. but i think she means i'm not convinced people really know what they're talking about when they attach the word "music" to rap. as being ignorant of jargon.

oh. sorry. I misunderstood maggot. I thought she was saying "dat ain't music" like an old fart might exclaim.

Yeah, you're right. I think using the term "rap" is actually incorrect as it's more a verb and "Hip Hop" is a noun. Rap is to Hip Hop, what scat is to Jazz.

I mean scat in the less poopy sense.

you fags are embarrassing.

youre an embarass

Joe's ass is blushing

Quit lookin' at it, queer.

How do you fit that think in Queens?

two greats from Columbus

BLUEPRINT
http://www.myspace.com/blueprint

ENVELOPE
http://www.myspace.com/enveloperaps

no shit, re-instilled my faith in hip hop