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Posted: Oct 25, 2003 3:58 am
October 22, 2003, Wednesday, BC cycle

SECTION: Entertainment News

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HEADLINE: Johnny Rotten disturbs release of punk rock box set

BYLINE: By DAVID BAUDER, Associated Press Writer


You've got to admit there's some poetic justice to it: a company feuding with Johnny Rotten over the release of a vintage punk rock box set.

Rhino Records is releasing a four-CD, 100-song punk retrospective on Oct. 28, titled "No Thanks!: The '70s Punk Rebellion."

But that wasn't its original name.

The company wanted to call the box, "Ever Get the Feeling You've Been Cheated?" For music trivia buffs, those were the words spoken into the microphone by Johnny Rotten as the Sex Pistols left the stage after their final concert before breaking up in 1978.

Then Rotten, born John Lydon, found out about Rhino's plans when he was interviewed this summer by a reporter from The Washington Post.

"It's a (expletive) insult to be using my quote to back up product that I have nothing to do with," he told the Post. "To my mind, that's fraudulent marketing, plain and simple. I don't care how much homage they pay to me in the liner notes. They want to use me from a distance and I find that just unacceptable."

Lydon conveyed the same message to Rhino, said Marc Salata, product manager of the box set.

Rhino was already disappointed because the Sex Pistols wouldn't license any of their songs for the project. The box includes the Clash, Ramones, Elvis Costello, Talking Heads, the Jam and Patti Smith - with the Pistols a major hole.

The title, "No Thanks!," has dual meanings, Salata explained. At the time, the punk bands were saying, "no thanks" to the popular music of the day. And although many of the musicians are revered today, they received relatively little public support at the time.

Left unspoken is a "no thanks" to the Sex Pistols.

Rhino has launched an ad campaign that lists all the bands appearing on their box, and "bands that just said, 'no thanks:' the Sex Pistols.

"Here are 100 tracks to tell 99 percent of the story," Rhino says. "For the rest, dust off your copy of 'Never Mind the Bollocks,"' the first Sex Pistols album.

Even Salata admits that Lydon showed a certain punk rock spirit in telling Rhino to get lost.

"We didn't want to pick a fight with John Lydon," he said. "But it doesn't seem too difficult to pick a fight with John Lydon."

Human Garbage Disposal
Posted: Oct 25, 2003 4:07 am
Ehhhh,Sex Pistols Schmex Pistols!

I saw 'em on Jimmy Kimmel-ol' Johnboy just can't hit those hi-notes anymore...

Chris Alienator
Posted: Oct 25, 2003 5:02 am
That would have been a seriously cynical name for that album....especially they way music is right now....what's funny is Rhino's put out tons of comps with the Sex Pistols on them....when I was a kid, I got UK PUNK: NO FUTURE that had demos of Anarchy in The UK and God Save The Queen....I wish I was still that young.
Chris Alienator
Posted: Oct 25, 2003 5:08 am
Oh yeah, what I also wanted to say is that Johnny Lydon is pretty smart within reason...and he probbably figures that in the long run it'd look good if he refuses to be a part of anything "punk related" right now....Like I think it's cool that he's taking what a crock of shit youth culture is so seriously...Johnny Ramone would just be happy with a fat paycheck..which is also cool....but Rotten knows what the fuck would realy be cool right now....don't care for his music to much thow.
Posted: Oct 25, 2003 7:37 am
speaking of which, did anyone ever record any episodes of Rotten Television from VH1, it was really good.
Jakey Stiff
Posted: Oct 26, 2003 8:57 pm
I thought that show got canned?? They actually aired some? Anyway this box set obviously appeals to a demographic that probably wouldn't take note at the omission of those latter day boy banders "The Sex Pistols" anyway.
Chris Alienator
Posted: Oct 27, 2003 12:43 am
But what's sad is that Johnny Rotten realy did take it all seriously....like too seriously, maybe like Peter Tork and Mike Nesmith from the Monkees.....but what's nice is that he's still taking it seriously enough to turn down a fat royalty check....Like maybe he figures this will just bring more of the kind of attention he wants...but it's still kind of refreshing.
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