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Posted: Mar 27, 2006 5:52 pm
 
but I sure as hell don't want to be lumped in with these geezers in denial, either

http://newyorkmag.com/news/features/16529/index.html
Posted: Mar 27, 2006 6:01 pm
 
Still reading, but: “All of the really good music right now has absolutely precise parallels to the best music of the eighties, from Franz Ferdinand to Interpol to Death Cab—anything you can name,”
Posted: Mar 27, 2006 6:08 pm
 
ugh. just like the article said, i really do hope their children end up to be conservative as shit and hate everything that they like.
Posted: Mar 27, 2006 6:16 pm
 
please, everyone in new york (and that means everyone) walk into the east river.
Posted: Mar 27, 2006 6:45 pm
 
i can't wait to kick arman's fucking ass some day.
Posted: Mar 27, 2006 7:01 pm
 
better bring a lunch, girly.
Posted: Mar 27, 2006 7:11 pm
 
Hey Arman, you should train for the fight by punching blocks of pepperoni laced mozzarella cheese.
Posted: Mar 27, 2006 9:26 pm
 
and i could have someone fling rare 45s at me frisbee style and i'll practice my ducking and feinting.
Posted: Mar 27, 2006 9:31 pm
 
is dirk the type uh guy that slurrs and slings?
Posted: Mar 27, 2006 9:35 pm
 
Not to be a bitch, but aren't the majority of posters on the board over 35? doesn't that make you like the people in the article except with better taste and less money? just sayin....
Posted: Mar 27, 2006 9:54 pm
 
let's see...

(a) walk around with an iPod plugged into his ears at all times, listening to the latest from Bloc Party....HA! ipods and bloc party are gay

(b) regularly buy his clothes at Urban Outfitters....GAY

(c) take her toddler to a Mommy’s Happy Hour at a Brooklyn bar.....again, please, everyone in new york, walk into the east river

(d) stay out till 4 A.M. because he just can’t miss the latest New Pornographers show, because who knows when Neko Case will decide to stop touring with them, and everyone knows she’s the heart of the band....stay out till 4am because i'm working at the shithole club that hosts said douche bag bands and have to put up with their shitty, vapid fans(thanks walter fucking meego, you faggots)

(e) spend $250 on a pair of jeans that are artfully shredded to look like they just fell through a wheat thresher and are designed, eventually, to artfully fall totally apart....never have never will, i just let my bike seat shred the crotch of my jeans so my scrotum can 'artfully' hang out of my pants

(f) decide that Sufjan Stevens is the perfect music to play for her 2-year-old, because, let’s face it, 2-year-olds have lousy taste in music, and we will not listen to the Wiggles in this house....can we fit one more douche bag in the east river??? yeah? sufjan get your homo michigander folk ass over here!

(g) wear sneakers as a fashion statement....no comment i guess.

(h) wear the same vintage New Balance sneakers that he wore on his first day of school in the seventh grade as a fashion statement....never had NBs. wore pony.

(i) wear said sneakers to the office....don't work in an office

(j) quit the office job because—you know what?—screw the office and screw jockeying for that promotion to VP, because isn’t promotion just another word for “slavery”.....ha ha, your prissy sarah lawrence educated wifey poo is going to divorce you. HA!

(k) and besides, now that she’s a freelancer, working on her own projects, on her own terms, it’s that much easier to kick off in the middle of the week for a quick snowboarding trip to Sugarbush, because she’s got to have some balance, right? And she can write it off, too, because who knows? She might bump into Spike Jonze on the slopes....see 'j'

(l) wear a Misfits T-shirt....GAY FUCKING ROD!

(m) make his 2-year-old wear a Misfits T-shirt....PEDOPHILE!

(n) never shave...GAY PEDOPHILE!

(o) take pride in never shaving(p) take pride in never shaving while spending $200 on a bedhead haircut and $600 on a messenger bag, because, seriously, only his grandfather or some frat-boy Wall Street flunky still carries a briefcase

so, no sarah, i see very little in common with that article.
Posted: Mar 27, 2006 10:34 pm
 
maybe arman was right. i'll kick ratface joe's ass instead.
Posted: Mar 27, 2006 10:38 pm
 
..im a toys r us kid.
Posted: Mar 27, 2006 11:22 pm
 
this isn't making growing up any easier
Posted: Mar 27, 2006 11:24 pm
 
oooh touchy touchy. do you need to take your fiber supplements, old man?
Posted: Mar 27, 2006 11:29 pm
 
what a horrible, horrible world
Posted: Mar 27, 2006 11:38 pm
 
calm down - you can pick apart anything and make it seem lame.

overanalyzation always leads to nausea.

we only hate what we fear.
Posted: Mar 27, 2006 11:49 pm
 
ugh. just like the article said, i really do hope their children end up to be conservative as shit and hate everything that they like.

don't worry, kids are guaranteed to rebel.

i know my niece will be a devil worshipping stripper.
i take great solace in that.
Posted: Mar 28, 2006 12:16 am
 
I'm actually in total agreement with the "hip" baby shit.... Those obnoxious "punk rock" onesies make me want to vomit.

There's nothing punk rock about reproducing and dressing up your offspring like the Cabbage Patch doll they never made.
Posted: Mar 28, 2006 12:24 am
 
There's nothing punk rock about reproducing and dressing up your offspring like the Cabbage Patch doll they never made.

you're so right. Its not punk rock - its narcissism...

on the other hand...I'm thinking, how can I make some money off these "hipster"parents?
Posted: Mar 28, 2006 12:32 am
 
So what's acceptable to put on your kid?

not cutesy, not punk, not baby gap, not wal-mart

I can't believe this has become another way to measure a person.

"Dude, he is so Gay! He dresses his kids in onesies form Old Navy"
Posted: Mar 28, 2006 1:25 am
 
i have a niece who turns 4 on wednesday. she's really into winnie the pooh and his friends, esp. tigger. so i sent her a t shirt w/ tigger on it.

of course, there WAS a part of me DYING to make a custom shirt for her w/ 666 or some other devilish thing on it, just to annoy my sister. but thinking about it was enough

i like it when kids dress as the innocents i want them to be. alas...its all up to the parents tho.
Posted: Mar 28, 2006 1:36 am
 
When are you coming to NY to lead the march, Arman?
Posted: Mar 28, 2006 1:48 am
 
i've always found it pathetic and cruel when parents bring their children to whatever rally/protest/political march etc. and force them to hold up some sign saying some crap the kid couldn't possibly understand.
Posted: Mar 28, 2006 2:03 am
 
I find child slavery an increasingly lucritve venture!
Posted: Mar 28, 2006 3:09 am
 
don't buy clothes. who cares about that shit. t shirts and jeans are fine with me. besides, that shit will be outta fashion in a matter of months. save the $ or spend it on records. that's what i do
Posted: Mar 28, 2006 3:20 am
 
There's definitely something to be said for exposing your kids to good music though. My kids were boppin' to the Rezillos when I was changing their diapers. Now they're singing along with the Reigning Sound. They don't give a shit about wearing Old Navy shit, or whatever their stupid friends wear.
Posted: Mar 28, 2006 3:21 am
 
They don't give a shit about wearing Old Navy shit, or whatever their stupid friends wear.

liar
Posted: Mar 28, 2006 3:30 am
 
i give a shit about what those kids are wearin. They better be wearin my clothing label made by Hondurin child slaves! Whoo-Hoo! I'm a finally gettin cable!
Posted: Mar 28, 2006 3:36 am
 
liar

Actually, I don't even know what their friends wear.
Posted: Mar 28, 2006 4:14 am
 
the peer pressure for kids is pretty high.
that's why school uniforms are a great idea.
you really have to assert your individuality in creative ways - like developing a personality.
Posted: Mar 28, 2006 4:26 am
 
yeah but once you're the only person with personality you'll have a slew of imitators on the goner board sniping at you 24 hours a day. it's lonely at the top, kids.
Posted: Mar 28, 2006 4:43 am
 
anyone have a shovel?
Posted: Mar 28, 2006 7:52 pm
 
school uniforms are a great idea

and

So what's acceptable to put on your kid?

not cutesy, not punk, not baby gap, not wal-mart


so i think the next 'big thing' as far as clothing for kids should be the 'chairman mao'. since most of y'all obsess more over making kids look NOT hip, then lets go to china and buy up a bunch of gray overcoats and hats and dress up the little larvae as the blind cave dwelling fish that you want them to be.
Posted: Mar 28, 2006 7:53 pm
 
it's lonely at the top, kids

you're a top now???? so no more shit getting shoved down your throat by leather daddies, huh?
Posted: Mar 28, 2006 7:54 pm
 
Richard Karn was wearing a pink oxford on today's "Family Feud."
Posted: Mar 28, 2006 8:09 pm
 
There's nothing punk rock about reproducing and dressing up your offspring

I don't know. . . that "Cheap Twick" onesie that my friend received for her kid was pretty f'n cute.
Posted: Mar 28, 2006 8:21 pm
 
oooh touchy touchy.

so communcation has come to this, has it?
Posted: Mar 28, 2006 8:25 pm
 
Am I supposed to go to shows anymore, or am I supposed to have the cardigan, slippers, pipe, leather chair, and call everyone "old boy"?
Posted: Mar 28, 2006 8:32 pm
 
with your monocle and bag full of kruegarands.
Posted: Mar 28, 2006 8:48 pm
 
Smashing!
Posted: Mar 28, 2006 11:34 pm
 
Am I supposed to go to shows anymore, or am I supposed to have the cardigan, slippers, pipe, leather chair, and call everyone "old boy"?

dude, as long as you're wearing headphones and twiddling knobs, you can wear whatever you want to shows.
Posted: Mar 29, 2006 12:26 am
 
you're so right. Its not punk rock - its narcissism...

on the other hand...I'm thinking, how can I make some money off these "hipster"parents?


That's all it is... just another way to get people to spend money on shit they don't need. What's worse about the hipster baby clothes is that the people that buy them think they're making some sort of statement and being anti-establishment by doing it. It's pathetic.

Kids at that age SO don't give a shit what they're wearing. They don't give a shit if you bought their obnoxious punk rock onesie from some flavor of the month t-shirt designer's website that's helping to keep Dov Charney laid and in business, or if you have them dressed in a soft cotton number from Goodwill since you know that they'll only fit in the thing for a few more weeks.

People dressing up their kids in crap like this...

http://www.babywit.com/

.... aren't any different from people who dress up their kids in crap like this...

http://www.universalroyalty.com/

It's about making mommy and daddy feel good about how the world perceives them and their donation to the gene pool, not about the kid.
Posted: Mar 29, 2006 12:31 am
 
Jack, your style is impeccable.

You know, that article really pissed me off. Touchy, touchy maybe...as I am pretty damned old. But, I still wear the same stuff I've always worn. Nothing drastic. Who can fault t-shirts and black tights? And who says that I have to wear old Southern lady housedresses now? I've never been in the corporate market, so I guess I have an excuse.

I, for one, love the school uniform thing. I thought I would hate it, because it would stifle my little darlings individualites. But no!
And, it does away with the insane Nike/Fubu/whatever crazings that the kids were into for a while. It really does help.
Posted: Mar 29, 2006 1:30 am
 
I think the point that is missed is that we are all pretty musch dressing the same as we always have.

I didn't hit thirty and think - oh, can't wear jeans and sneakers anymore!

remember in the the movie "Pretty in Pink" when they all wore sports coats to high school - those kids never changed their style much either.

It;s just that back then people thought the youth were replicating the adults, and now people think that we're replicating the youth.

but I think whatever style you set for your self in your late teens stays with you.
Posted: Mar 29, 2006 1:36 am
 
No matter what arman says, beards are ALWAYS in style.
Posted: Mar 29, 2006 1:40 am
 
walking around my neighborhood in brooklyn today, every person pushing a stroller was one of these "grups". the only part that really bugs me about it is the indie rock part ...as long as i don't have a kid!
Posted: Mar 29, 2006 1:51 am
 
I fucking hate yuppies. And I hate that yuppie shit they listen to.
Posted: Mar 29, 2006 1:57 am
 
no non-man like arman should ever attempt to judge a real man like jack stands who has actually reproduced. there are only 3 real men on the goner board-jack stands, me and steven vdw. as far as i know.
Posted: Mar 29, 2006 2:26 am
 
Wow thanks for reproducing fuckwit. Good job helping to contribute to overpopulating the planet, you worthless fuck. I hope yer kids die in a school shooting one day.
Posted: Mar 29, 2006 2:26 am
 
I feel extra gay now. Thanks, Ned. TK's deal about me "twiddling knobs" didn't help much in context, either.

As for arman, as wrong-minded as his thoughts on the manly hair are, I wouldn't want to piss off people like him. They will see us when we're dead. You could kick my ass in this world, and it might smart for a little bit. But people like that have the ability to place a giant, green dildo in your hand once you're in the casket with a sign that says, "Hi Mom!"
Posted: Mar 29, 2006 2:28 am
 
Good job helping to contribute to overpopulating the planet, you worthless fuck.
Hey, we only had one kid. We're keeping up with chinese rules on that one.
Posted: Mar 29, 2006 2:58 am
 
With Grandma. Man, that's a sad story.
Posted: Mar 29, 2006 3:21 am
 
brad, we got many a'those down here, too. Hooray, Meth!
Posted: Mar 29, 2006 3:29 am
 
don't buy clothes. who cares about that shit. t shirts and jeans are fine with me

my sister reproduced last year. for christmas I(and deadcityrebel) gave the baby a jean jacket and 2 homemade t-shirts: GONER(red) and Rock n Roll (black) just to piss off my babygap lovin sister. we're hoping the kid will turn out semi normal.
Posted: Mar 29, 2006 4:32 pm
 
wow you've really outdone yourself in the bad taste department there mr.fagaction. a little hostile because you're incapable of impregnating a woman??? try killing yourself. that might help.
Posted: Mar 29, 2006 7:10 pm
 
wrong-minded as his thoughts on the manly hair are

i don't really have an opinion on facial hair, but a beard coupled with a misfits t-shirt is totally gay pedophile...that being a 'joke'....a 'funny, ha ha' if you will...
Posted: Mar 29, 2006 7:13 pm
 
Q: why can't skin heads reproduce?
Posted: Mar 29, 2006 7:31 pm
 
My guess is that it has something to do with really tight suspenders "packing the nads", if you will...
Posted: Mar 29, 2006 7:37 pm
 
A: all their cum keeps getting caught in dirk digglers beard.
Posted: Mar 29, 2006 7:42 pm
 
it really doesn't matter what you dress your baby up in because they're gonna spit up all over it anyway.
Posted: Mar 29, 2006 10:22 pm
 
i dont have a beard arman. unlike you. that's what they call a fag's girlfriend. faggot.
Posted: Mar 29, 2006 10:24 pm
 
so then you're a 'log cabin'?
Posted: Mar 29, 2006 10:45 pm
 
Unfortunately some skinheads HAVE been reproducing.
Posted: Mar 30, 2006 4:17 am
 
I will never be grown up enough to have kids.

I agree w/ Saint Sarah up there... all us on here are basically no diff than the people they talk about in the article, we're just going about the not growing up stuff in a different manner than the yups. I just turned 42 and had a BLOW OUT b-day party with 4 bands (Headache City included!). I'm finding grays regularly now, can't party for days in a row like I used to, but I'll be DAMNED if I'm gonna stop going to shows and buying music just cuz I hit a certain number. CAN I HEAR AN AMEN??
Posted: Mar 30, 2006 4:19 am
 
Amen.
Posted: Mar 30, 2006 4:40 am
 
Amen. Amen. Amen.
Posted: Mar 30, 2006 5:50 am
 
You're welcome.
Posted: Mar 30, 2006 6:08 am
 
Thats what I always tell people about getting older - when you're young you pretend like you don't care what people think, when you get old you really don't.
Posted: Mar 30, 2006 6:13 am
 
Great, Rachel!
Posted: Mar 30, 2006 11:49 am
 
I will never be grown up enough to have kids.

It doesn't take a grown up to raise kids. See what a lot of "grown ups" do to children. Some love and attention might do it. I can see what makes these New York Mag-types so repulsive. We've plenty of 'em in Europe.
Posted: Mar 30, 2006 12:11 pm
 
Europe.

europe, there's a place you dont wanna go
Posted: Mar 30, 2006 1:47 pm
 
the best thing about growing up is knowing stuff. b.b. king said that where he was from they didn't think you knew anything until you were 40. i know what they mean.
Posted: Mar 30, 2006 2:21 pm
 
europe, there's a place you dont wanna go

I'm dealing with individuals, not nations - wouldn't be here otherwise, Phil. So if it's reatards you're into : plenty of those here too.
Posted: Mar 30, 2006 2:21 pm
 
No, wait. Stay there.
Posted: Mar 30, 2006 5:32 pm
 
all us on here are basically no diff than the people they talk about in the article

please tell me how i'm even close to being the same as those people...
Posted: Mar 30, 2006 7:26 pm
 
over 30 and still hangin on...
Posted: Mar 30, 2006 7:27 pm
 
In 4 years I'll be able to tell BB King off.
Posted: Mar 30, 2006 11:13 pm | Edited by: ottawarockerdude
 
all us on here are basically no diff than the people they talk about in the article

i'm going on 37 and act like i'm 22 only because i'm an immature fuck-up, i'm certainly not hip. i thought i was part gen-x...what ever happened to that shit? it's all just made -up bullshit
Posted: Mar 31, 2006 2:41 am
 
Oh Aaaarmaaaaan (she whines)... I know you're not a materialistic asshole like the folks they're talking about in that article (well... not materialistic at least... haw!) but like them I, and you, are not like our parents' generation, we're holding onto our youth longer and still enjoying the things we did in our 20s well into our 30s and 40s, like going to shows and partying and collecting music. That's the similiarity I'm talking about... not the vapid materialism or the follow the crowd ethics or any of that. Other folks on here seemed to understand what I was getting at, and they don't even know me!
Posted: Mar 31, 2006 2:36 pm
 
I'll be DAMNED if I'm gonna stop going to shows and buying music just cuz I hit a certain number.

amen. i had a long talk with miriam about this when Alpo died. it's like the feeling and fever for music does not go away just because the years creep up. and why should it?

as for GAP, I've had a series of major meltdowns this past year--tears galore (no comment please, arman)--the most recent one being in Boston last month with my older sisters. it all hinged on this clothes and personal style thing. at 35 I'm still really touchy about the ribbing and ridicule i've gotten from them my whole life about always looking "weird," NOT dressing in just Gap like a lemming, but instead seeking out what I think is cool to wrap myself in, or listen to, or people to associate with. and it's not like I look weird, for God's sake. but it's like if you don't wear the fads and fashions then you're some sort of FREAK. well freak me out forever, I say.

it's leather weather right now and I'm sporting some awesome charlie's angels light blue, diamond-encrusted butterfly sunglasses, blue converse, wooden hoop earrings, and tight black pants. i feel NORMAL.
Posted: Apr 1, 2006 10:18 pm
 
I'm nude
Posted: Apr 1, 2006 10:58 pm
 
I have on a pair of crotchless panties, a gunny sack and a pair of Candies that are 3 sizes too small. Is that childish for a man that's in his early 30's?
Posted: Apr 1, 2006 11:14 pm
 
Not to be a bitch, but aren't the majority of posters on the board over 35? doesn't that make you like the people in the article except with better taste and less money? just sayin....

Better taste and less money = not frontin' and not as stupid
I, however, will not be 35 for greater than three years from now. When I am, as now, I will not be shouting "look at me, I'm still young... I swear" with some stupid toe-headed baby strapped to me in a faggot papoose.
Posted: Apr 1, 2006 11:15 pm | Edited by: red eyed willie
 
The money part could really come in handy though. I'm gonna work on that.
Posted: Apr 2, 2006 12:37 am
 
the best thing about growing up is knowing stuff. b.b. king said that where he was from they didn't think you knew anything until you were 40. i know what they mean.

Well maybe by the time you're 65 you'll know something. Here's a hint: The first letter in a sentence is capitalized. Take care.
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