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Posted: Aug 6, 2005 3:19 pm
 
Fox 13 news yesterday mentioned that the owners of overton square are in discussions with Target about dismantling part of overton square, and putting in a target. They cited Memphis Business Journal as their source. Did anyone see that article (Does anyone get that paper?)

I love target, and it would be nice to be able to get necessities in midtown. (actually everytime I shop there I end up with more un-necessities than necessities), but that seems like a terrible location.


Of course, I've been hearing rumors of midtown Target locations for years: both at the old Coach and Four motel location on lamar, and next to home depot on poplar and avalon, which would be ideal if they took out the remaining stores in that shopping center.
Posted: Aug 6, 2005 4:24 pm
 
I haven't heard about that. I do know they are putting in a Lowes at Perkins and Summer. My wife is giddy about this.
Posted: Aug 6, 2005 4:33 pm
 
perkins & summer? which corner? they just put in that walgreens...

i don't think there's room for target in overton square, is there?
Posted: Aug 6, 2005 4:36 pm
 
Across the street; west side of Perkins, behind the Super D and gas station.
Posted: Aug 6, 2005 5:28 pm
 
wow! I might be giddy about a Lowes on Summer too. Is that close to where Central Hardware used to be? That home depot in midtown always pisses me off. They carry 99% of everything that the other stores do, which sounds good in theory...But it really means that I end up having to go to a full size home depot to get that last remaining part to finish my project.

I don't see how a Target would fit in Overton Square either, but the news story said something about possibly dismantling part of overton square. I don't know if they are talking about Applebees or Cancun or the looney bin side
Posted: Aug 6, 2005 5:28 pm
 
From what little I know about Target, I am sure the other band members would love to get back together to dismantle any concert hall, including Overton Square where they played an early show with Kiss (Lafayette's which has already been dismantled). BUT! Jim(i) Jamison apparantly made so much money from that Starbucks/Survivor commercial, it probably won't happen any time soon. If Target does come to mid-town, my money would be on Neil's, for sure.

I love Target too, but I would really prefer a Creed show.
Posted: Aug 6, 2005 5:42 pm
 
HA! "I'm High On You!"

No, they ripped up a whole new section for the Lowes. You can see it driving down Sam Cooper. I prefer Lowes over Home Depot; the people seem to know more and are willing to help (I am comparing the stores out in Wufchase). Not that it matters to too many others, but when my brother got back from Iraq, he said Lowes did a whole lot to help out with USO, and all that. I'll put my money into that. Either way, my wife is giddy about the Lowes, because HGTV is like porn for her.

Target would fit in that big ass parking lot perhaps?
Posted: Aug 6, 2005 5:54 pm
 
But where would people park? I think a Target there is a really bad idea. Is Overton Square coming around AT ALL? It could be such a kick ass place (as it once was).

Target at poplar and avalon is perfect. What is in there now (where Zayre/Mega Market etc used to be)?
Posted: Aug 6, 2005 6:24 pm
 
that's the mini home depot.
Posted: Aug 6, 2005 6:31 pm | Edited by: hemant
 
fiery... Home Depot bought the whole shopping center there, moved Radio Shack to where that simply fashions clothing store was, then they tore down the megamarket and built a fairly large home depot.

Overton square seems like they were doing pretty good (except for all of that one side that faces cooper.). Boscos, Pizza Cafe, and the indian restaurant always seem pretty busy. I think the movie theater and dinner and restaurant combination has been working pretty well for them.

Fridays, Looney bin, and the restarants on the cooper side are all vacant (although, the other side of cooper is about to be renovated....playhouse on the square is about to build a much larger theater at Union and Cooper, taking out the robert e lee antique store and the wine and beer making supply place). I think its just hard to fill restaurant spaces that big these days.
Posted: Aug 6, 2005 7:28 pm
 
I think you are right. I guess I have lived here too long. Real estate like Overton Square is absolutely booming and there is a new restaurant or cafe or cool shop opening every week. This city is getting kind of crazy.
Posted: Aug 6, 2005 8:40 pm
 
!Hail Target!

Studebaker's could benefit heavily from the Kitchenware Dept.

!i!i!i!i!i
Posted: Aug 7, 2005 6:37 pm
 
Whoa, I thought that the Walgreens on Union/McLean was bad in terms of running into people when I wasn't in the mood for small talk - a Target in Midtown would be a stop-and-chat bottleneck....

There will be people in town that will spend an hour getting ready to go the Target.
Posted: Aug 7, 2005 8:22 pm
 
Forget Target, I'm down with Ike's.
Posted: Aug 7, 2005 8:59 pm
 
i should like ike's but i don't.

haven't given their new one a chance, though... i hated the long walk-around at the last one. and no cold beer. cold beer at the new one?

i'm a rite aid dude... but they're pissing me off with their front-loaded beer way in the back of the store- and ice at the back of the store? give me a break.

... rumors of Target, and Andy's already dreading running into someone who wants to talk to him. awesome.
Posted: Aug 7, 2005 10:01 pm
 
Ike's was much cheaper before the storm. New Ike's is Walgreen's level prices.

Biz journal says some Target-affiliated development company has option on 9 of 11 acres on the bad side of overton sq. Looks imminent but I think that home depot locale would be much better.
Posted: Aug 7, 2005 11:39 pm
 
Please, please give me a Target in Midtown. I don't care where...though it seems kind of odd and wrong to do away with much of Overton Square. But, with a Target I'd never have to leave the Midtown borders. An agoraphobic's fondest wish!
Schnuck's is the worst for that chit chat stuff. Quit shopping there a long time ago for just that reason. But Target's got those nice wide aisle, so it might not be so bad.
Posted: Aug 8, 2005 12:00 am
 
At Wal-Marts in Germany, they have like a little sign you can attach to your shopping cart if you're looking to meet other single shoppers like yourself. They tried this at one place in the U.S., but it didn't go over well. They should def. try that at the new Target, as well as the one in East Memphis. Maybe add a cocktail bar, too ...
Posted: Aug 8, 2005 12:18 am
 
i always just do the old "blue hankerchief, left back pocket" thing when i'm shopping at Schnucks.

Works every time.
Posted: Aug 8, 2005 12:54 am
 
Cocktails at target, I would spend even more money on crap I don't need, and it would take me even longer to get it all.

The Ikes in Midtown sucks. Everytime I go there, they don't have what I want. They didn't have peanut butter or crackers, no good haloween stuff, no good christmas stuff. The dollar store has a better selection, and is better priced for sure.
Posted: Aug 8, 2005 2:01 am
 
I always just do the old "cover face and run in other direction" thing.

Works every time.
Posted: Aug 8, 2005 2:04 am
 
.....or I'll just wrap myself in a king-sized comforter and wear giant sunglasses - also works well.
Posted: Aug 8, 2005 6:42 am
 
Killed that thread, I guess.
Posted: Aug 8, 2005 2:54 pm
 
Who cares about Target.

I wish they'd throw a Watson's somewhere in Midtown. I hate driving so far to get a new pool cue or replacement bumpers for my bumper pool table.
Posted: Aug 8, 2005 6:31 pm
 
Real estate like Overton Square is absolutely booming and there is a new restaurant or cafe or cool shop opening every week. This city is getting kind of crazy.

That's what's happening at Cooper & Young. I can't hardly stand to go over there except to visit Ye Olde Goner Shoppe, and that has me there all the fuckin' time.
Posted: Aug 8, 2005 7:14 pm
 
That's what's happening at Cooper & Young.

Yeah, a little bit. I'd be surprised, however, if the Irish or Moroccan places wind up being mainstays.
Posted: Aug 8, 2005 8:17 pm
 
What is so bizarre is I just went to Target on my lunch break and was checking out the home decor sales, turned the aisle and there stood a statuesque sorority blonde...WRAPPED IN A KING SIZE COMFORTER!!!!!!
Posted: Aug 8, 2005 8:19 pm
 
Was she dead, or just fancying herself a model?
Posted: Aug 8, 2005 8:29 pm
 
I have no idea what she was doing. She looked like she was practicing answering her dorm room door with nothing else on.

Her mother was relegated to being on her hands and knees tossing aside other Shabby Chic brand comforters looking for another one for her princess.
Posted: Aug 8, 2005 9:56 pm
 
coulda been the new Mizrahi gown.
goes nice w. baby tee and shorts that say 'Princess' or my favorite-'Bootylicious' on the backside.
Posted: Aug 8, 2005 11:13 pm
 
Sheeeeet...I'd wear those adorable Cynthia Rowley duvet covers given the chance.
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 4:06 am
 
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 5:38 am
 
My favorite things about this thread (besides the fact that Earles called the comforter shot heard round the country):
1) Goners are so interested in Target

Which actually is a good thing. The narrow nature & extreme close-mindedness of much of Goner poster's interest(s) have always been the least positive thing about the Goner Board to me--mostly I speak of the non-Memphis board stuff. (Check out the lack of interest in Cuban musician Ibrahim Ferrar, for example). It's always been limiting to get too far outside dismal Estrus-style 3chord rock there, but as I've said before, there is no other board in town as interesting...

2) Goners got the word far earlier (relatively) than most of Memphis. Feels like the old party line with Sarah placing the calls at the Petticoat Junction. Would love to see more Goners branch out into fixing the never-ending current ills of this city, which seem to loom larger every day.

Go Goner! Good work, Eric!
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 4:01 pm
 
I was thinking about this last night as well and decided that the inclusion of Target in Overton Square would be a reverse 9-11 style attack on what has long been one of 3 nerve centers in Mepmphis, TN. East Memphis backlash against Midtown in the form of cheap but palletable commodities. If this goes down there MUST be an IKEA to open next door to represent the 2nd Tower. No Excuses. Home Depot/Pentagon should open in the area of 616 thus convenient to downtowners and midtowners and artists alike.

sherman, assuming this rumor is true what is considered the bad side of overton sq. ? Over by Dabbles across the street from the 1/2 way house or by Gertrude and Gonzalez(former)?
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 4:53 pm
 
the side no one ever goes to...bad mexican food long closed, studebakers/laffalittle/tgif
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 5:04 pm
 
i still don't understand where they get the space, they need a parking lot for target, too, so they can't just take up overton squares' lot...

and i don't know about target destroying midtown "culture"... most midtowners drive out to target now, anyway, peek at the wms snoma outlet, maybe head over to davis kidd. with target in midtown, maybe those folks will actually kill some time in overton square getting something to eat, a movie, whatever.

we shall see.
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 5:21 pm
 
It's hard to imagine that area being renovated and thriving again. It seems people just don't want to open anything outside of the obvious-comedy club/theme restaurant.

I like Target but if I still lived in Memphis I would fear it in Overton Square but it's not like the city is making any real effort to revitalize that area. The Only Alternative...Raize it.
I Believe in Use It Or Lose It. and Memphis ain't been using that property to it's advantage in ages.
Put something you know will bring people to it. Scary stuff but in a town of fiscal inactivity it might be the only option unless you bronze the front of those buildings(particularly Playhouse On the Square--or whatever the one is that's b/w Fridays and Sir Laffs His Ass Off) that have already rendered themselves unable to attract interest.

It could really shake up the area west>Madison>Mclean>Poplar.
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 5:23 pm
 
It's a tight fit for sure. Maybe they will work out a deal to share Bosco's parking lot. If it does open, then the corner where Ike's is should soon be available too.
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 5:26 pm
 
Is Kate's still opened on the corner of Union/Cooper? Talk about a building that needs a pyromaniacal touch up. Put that fucking place out of it;s misery for god's sake. Even Ike's has improved it's image.
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 5:31 pm
 
I had heard a rumor a while back (I guess it's definitely JUST a rumor now) that they were gonna put a Target in were the Piggly Wiggly now stands. Although I don't like the thought of life without the Pig, I like it better than a Target at Overton Square.
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 6:01 pm
 
kate's is slated to be new playhouse on sq. They are currently fund raising for that.
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 6:17 pm
 
I'm still having trouble imagining 11 acres. Maybe I need to drive all the way around it again.
Things could be worse, though. My house backs up to Summer Ave. When we moved in, the lot behind us, facing Summer, was one of the only non-developed pieces of land. Trees, tall grass, etc.
The used car dealership next door to it wanted to expand their lot.
Folks on Faxon, including myself (I mean the ruckus was about the lot behind my house) went to City Council to say "no", but they gave the o.k. for development anyway. The dealership left the trees, and only expanded out to the street, and fenced in the other half, leading to my lot.
Point is, I liked having nothing behind my street, but it could have been worse. They could have put in some kind of fast-food joint (and I probably would have had even more stories for the Rat Traps(Not the band) thread.
Target is o.k. At least it's not a Super-ultra-mega Wal-Mart.
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 6:17 pm | Edited by: Matthew
 
Maybe it's just me but for more than 20 years I've considered Overton Sq. to be The Center of Midtown thus the CENTER OF MEMPHIS. Even in it's declining years it's still been this kind of sentimental center of Memphis for me(and I'm assuming others). Putting up something like a Target may be what SHOULD happen. Effectively De-Centralizing Memphis for a time. Forcing Memphis to re-establish it's own center elsewhere (let's hope) on it's own terms. eric's right about it not destroying 'midtown culture' (hell, it might even enrich it)as how many of us can say we weren't affected by Piggly Wiggly, RiverCity Donuts, or Circle K?
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 6:21 pm
 
At least it's not a Super-ultra-mega Wal-Mart.
WORD
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 6:22 pm
 
Center of mid-town moved to Cooper Young in the last couple years. I have no nostalgia for overton sq. & its mediocrity highlighted (lowlighted?) by Fridays. A whole lot of it has been empty for many years...
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 6:55 pm | Edited by: Matthew
 
I don't know...Cooper Young is definitely an interesting neighborhood w. more than 2 things cooking and I guess if we're talking center of 'hip' Memphis or Goner Style Memphis then yes Cooper Young would be the center but as far as geographically/Sunday See-er Center goes it's still Overton in my mind. But I guess I can 'see' my way out as I no longer live there and my judgement is blurred by nostalgia (and I grew up in Cooper-Young).
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 7:09 pm
 
There's far more action in cooper-young than overton sq. now. Time has passed the sq. by...finally.
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 8:30 pm
 
I like Target but don't like what I see as a "Tear It Down" philosophy being the new face of Memphis Growth. I have some sentimental attachment to Overton Square, though I realize it has long ago died. BUT, it is an interesting area that if some attention could thoughtfully be paid to it, it could present a really interesting retail/service industry/housing area again. I know I am speaking from the "Let's Recycle Everything" view of Portland, but I like how they have developed areas here, keeping things smallish and interspersing and/or incorporating the old architecture with the new.
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 9:15 pm
 
fiery, I believe they have tried over and over again. Overton Square may very well become a new installment of Memphis Memoirs on WKNO. I can think of a couple of other places they could put it, but I don't think it'll kill Midtown - they'll just have to do something dramatically different to the current architecture of your average Target. Something like, um, I don't know, windows maybe?
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 9:27 pm
 
Surprised that there has been no mention of the Public Eye BBQ. Actually, I'm not so surprised. Miles and I had the buffet (post-birthday hangover) years and years ago, and it made me feel as though I'd been kicked down the street. It burned, dubiously, and there is (SURPRISE) a parking lot (complete with skate/freestyle slope) in its place. Last night, I rode my bike around this area, and I can possibly visualize a normal Target, but not a super 24/7 Target. Still, a very tight squeeze.

So, we have:

The Public Eye debacle.

The one and only time that I can remember patronizing T.G.I. Fridays, I had to physically carry my then girlfriend (who had a blown-out knee) through the restaurant. We enjoyed an order of ho-hum strips, medoicrifries, and forgetatips. For some reason, it seemed like the only place open at that time of the night.

I used to enjoy yelling various un-niceties when the Friday's window was open.

For my 19th birthday, I was awarded tickets to see Carrot Top at the Comedy Zone (or whatever it was named in the early-90's). I went.

I never ate at that particular Cancun location.

For Dave Dunlap's bachelor party evening, we (including a frequent poster to this thread) were almost kicked out of the comedy club for heckling. The cooler was hovering.

I had the very-entertaining-but-only-needed-once experience of open-mic night at the same club. A girl got on stage and told this joke:

"I was dating a minotaur, but I got sick of his bullshit. Uh, get it? A minotaur is half-man and half-cow, uh, anyway, I was also dating a centaur, but got sick of his giant horse cock, uh, a centaur is half-man and half-horse."

...at this point, a redneck in the back of the club began (and did not stop throughout her five minutes) to yell "HORSECOCK!!!!!!" at the top of his lungs.

So, my question is: What in the hell am I suppose to do with these memories?
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 9:34 pm
 
Hear, hear, Earles. The decent coffee shop they had back in the early, mid-nineties is long gone. I ate at Alligators, or whatever it was called once. Been to Playhouse, but they're moving, possibly, anyway. I can say that the funiest bathroom graffiti was in the men's room at the center of the square; one in particular was my favorite in front of a urinal, "Don't look down."
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 9:35 pm
 
So, my fucking question is: What in the hell am I SUPPOSED to do with these memories?
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 9:38 pm
 
I loved going to the ice skating rink in Overton Square when I was a kid but the many hours spent in Bombay Bicycle Club w/ my parents and their friends, I get sleepy thinking about it. (The worst place for that was Pete & Sams - the hours spent there - god almighty - "eat more melba toast.")
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 9:45 pm | Edited by: Matthew
 
Andy,
Hang your memories on a hook @ Racks.
Take them out for a mint chocolate chip ice cream @ Swensen's.
Dip them in a bucket of beer @ Silky's.

or get a Target Gift Card and make new memories for your livingroom and wardrobe.
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 9:48 pm
 
btw- the minotaur/centaur jokes absolutely slay.
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 10:43 pm
 
Really, the only good memories of Overton Square I have are the new wave shopping for clothes I couldn't afford at Chelsea in the early '80s. Also the Gamecock had a decent selection of video games, but I'm stretching nostalgia here to even type the words...

How did the Public Eye last so long? Burned ribs can only taste good to so many people. That was truly the worst bbq in Memphis. Now, if I'd been around for the rock writer's convention or Kiss...maybe I'd feel differently...
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 10:55 pm
 
yes, where is that comedienne now?

i mean, what cable show does she host?
Posted: Aug 9, 2005 11:26 pm
 
I was doing just fine forgetting my memories until this thread.

The one I will dredge up was the night of some Rock 103 sponsored drunkfest where I got all tarted up and came over from West Memphis with some other dangerous 15 year old and proceeded to flirt with some squids we met at Silky's, telling them in thick-ass Southern accents that we were from "Huntington Beach, California".
Posted: Aug 10, 2005 5:33 pm
 
Cheers to Fiery for flashing back to the slur "squids"!!!
Also, I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one avoiding chit chat at stupid Mid-town Schnucks and Ike's. I feel less hermit-like.
Posted: Aug 10, 2005 6:22 pm | Edited by: Womb Raider
 
just a note about the physical space necessary to accommodate target: here they have a 2-story target (with shopping cart escalator!) at a shopping mall- the footprint is pretty small but it seems to be the same size as a regular target inside. that may be what they have in mind.
Posted: Aug 10, 2005 6:32 pm
 
That is what they have here. It is huge but could easily fit in Overton Square...the parking could be an issue though.
Posted: Aug 10, 2005 10:34 pm
 
I was thinking about this the past few days and how the G&G's and the Public Eye footprint could never fit a target, even a condenced two story jobbie ( a cart escalator? In this jungle?)

I was looking online for something to see what sorta space they would typically be looking for and if they even have a two story jobbie, then I read thishttp://www.bizjournals.com/industries/retailing_restaurants/retailing/2005/08/08/memphis_story6.html

If I read this correctly, they would have to raze everything south of Madison, and still would barely shoehorn it in. Please read this for me and tell me if Im mistaken.
Posted: Aug 10, 2005 10:36 pm
 
MATAlac, that's exactly why I'm having trouble seeing the 11 Acres. A lot more would have to go, I think.
Posted: Aug 10, 2005 11:58 pm
 
I understand, but I can't watch. I was just there last night admiring a building (on the backside of Fridays/Studebakers) with these perfect rounded corners. I'd imagine it was a seperate thingey from the rest because the arch doesen't match. I've decided not to shed any tears, Overton Square all together is something alot younger than it looks, a piece of faux gay nineties theme realized sometime in the early seventies. It will go down in history with the Kirby Woods Mall and Germantown Square as a retail space reskinned to look like something else that will probably be faux. Don't forget, this is the city that sent the Mall of Memphis to oblivion and is about to demolish the one time largest privately owned hospital in the country. Last night on PBS I learned for the first time that the city destroyed a gorgeous train station long before my time.

Could you see the Target food service being the Pizza Cafe, they'd have to start popping corn.

I gotta go to Target NOW!!
Posted: Aug 11, 2005 12:03 am
 
Last night on PBS I learned....
Watched it, too. I love that whole series and was trying to figure out a way to make the $300 donation so I could have 'em all.
Posted: Aug 11, 2005 2:22 am
 
The Target will have a Food Avenue, at least that's the name of the eatery in the Colonial location. It's also a name that has been the rotating butt of my tired jokes over, say, five to six years.

Who out there bought a snarky tee from Bad Influence, huh? My mom had one that said, "Dinner Will Be Ready When The Smoke Alarm Goes Off."

They had the dirty tees in the lockers, including one that I didn't understand as a ten-year-old, and still don't:

"Noisy Little Fucker, Isn't He?"
Posted: Aug 11, 2005 2:35 am | Edited by: hemant
 
I recorded those PBS show last night: It was pretty depressing to see how many gorgeous buildings and mansions were torn down, especially in the 70s. I have a feeling that the only part of overton square that will be demolished is the side that is closed right now. Target stores always seem to be surrounded by other shops and restaurants, and the peak hours don't overlap so they could share a parking lot. That giant parking lot is pretty empty during the day.

Besides being a news junkie and fascinated by memphis development, I recently bought a house around the corner from overton square, and so I've been paying attention to what goes on in my neighborhood. I will be kind of pissed off if I can't walk to pizza cafe or the indian restaurant, and really fucking pissed if there's a shit load of traffic on my street trying to get a shortcut to Target.

On the other hand, the dogs were going through about a 40 pound bag of food a week, and I was making weekly trips out to East Memphis target anyways.
Posted: Aug 11, 2005 2:39 am
 
My Overton Square memory of the day is of Little John's, a kind of Spencer's Gifts for the Grace St. Lukes set. I would get special little outfits for my Snoopy stuffed animal here, such as a Snoopy scrubs ensemble, complete with reflection/mirror headband thingee and a medical mask. I think they had Hello Kitty before anyone else in Memphis (except maybe Layman's Games).
Posted: Aug 11, 2005 2:41 am
 
Wait one more memory. I discovered my dad had a mistress when we "ran into her" at the health food store (whatever that place was called) one evening. They were so uncomfortable and I was far too old at that point for my Dad to bring me along for some sort of rendezvous. The gig was up.
Posted: Aug 11, 2005 2:52 am
 
I was just at the one by Colonial. I think the design is really going to need to be something neat n' new; all of the ones around town truly are nothing more than four large walls of corrugated concrete, a red stripe going around the building towards the top, doors to enter and leave, and a loading bay in the back. Big. Box. Store. I hope they do try to do something different.
I've pondered MATAlac's two-story, and I do wonder about the shopping-cart escalators.
If this thing really shakes down, and I lived near, I wouldn't so much dread and fret the new shopper traffic, but the new semi truck traffic and the deconstruction/construction beforehand.
Posted: Aug 11, 2005 3:08 am
 
I'm looking forward to my first day as night janitor, as I hear a shoplifting Jennifer Connelly will get locked in the store, thus eventually destroying the social and economic barriers between the two of us.
Posted: Aug 11, 2005 3:44 am
 
Drove by the Square tonight & took some measurements--no charge, guys. Anyway, the only way this is gonna work for everyone is if they put it on the soon to be built 3rd floor of Yosemite Sam's ("where they got the m'ams" as I was once told by a construction worker).

Gotta go check on my Uptown projects...
Posted: Aug 11, 2005 4:49 am
 
"I hope they do try to do something different."

ha. this is target. they did let donnie denim and the donnas sing during one of their commercials, but their architecture team ain't gonna start improvising for midtown memphis.

what about if they took out the current playhouse building, theaterworks, applebees (?) and maybe even the gas station on the corner. that leaves a lot of parking lot and the current businesses (maybe) on the south side of Madison.

take out sidestreet/costume shop/etc all the way up to the next street for parking? there has to be plans out there on how this is gonna work. i'm not seeing a 2 story target right there.
Posted: Aug 11, 2005 8:13 am
 
Target tries so hard to be a "community conscious" company, trying to donate to local schools and other such charitable gimics. I wouldn't think they would trash the positive midtown image they've already achieved with the beautiful Target Houses 1 and 2 built for st jude patients right around the corner at Mclean and Poplar.
I just hope they build it right up against the street like other urban buildings, and not set back behind a parking lot like most suburban retailers.
Posted: Aug 11, 2005 2:56 pm
 
"Dinner Will Be Ready When The Smoke Alarm Goes Off."
Earles-my mom had a shirt from Bad Influence t-shirt that said '40 isn't Old If You're A Tree.' No kidding.
Please don't make me go down memory lane on this thread as I may end up emotionally busted.
Posted: Aug 11, 2005 3:19 pm
 
During that whole PBS thing my steppops woulden't shut up about how it was only available on VHS. I have to admit it, the Summer Ave montage and soundtrack were priceless.
Posted: Aug 11, 2005 4:42 pm
 
Is the current Playhouse in the old Memphian Theater building? That is a whole other full o' memories spot. Oh well. Target has great sales!
Posted: Aug 11, 2005 10:05 pm
 
O.k., so I just took the liberty of driving around Overton Square. 11 acres pretty easily.
Posted: Aug 11, 2005 11:34 pm
 
11 acres with or without the buildings?
Posted: Aug 11, 2005 11:50 pm
 
Without.
Posted: Aug 12, 2005 6:34 am
 
Posted: Aug 12, 2005 6:49 am
 
Does anyone remember Rich Hall, the sniglets guy? Before Courtney Love came by the store when she was working on The Life & Times of Larry Flynt, he was our 'biggest' celebrity customer. We used to be open til 9:00 p.m. and he came in around 8:00 looking for guitar strings one Saturday night when he had a gig at sir funny bone or whatever it was called. I don't know if he was doing singing comedy or what...Obviously, the Target folks realized that comedy is the only thing that will work on that site.
Posted: Aug 12, 2005 7:00 am
 
Discuss.

I still really want to know how the shopping cart escalators work.
Posted: Aug 12, 2005 9:16 am
 
Sherman! Talk about memories! One of my favorite albums is the second Janes Addiction release, "Rich Hall Will Hit Ya'll."
Posted: Aug 12, 2005 1:55 pm
 
Rich Hall's 'Onion World' was one of the best post-Get A Life sitcoms on tv.

Jack Stands,
shopping cart escalators are a separate escalator that people do not ride. You put yr cart in the escalator and it goes away(up or down). Then you get on the 'people' escalator next to the cart escalator and meet your goods @ the top or @ the bottom. It's quite a rush. They even have one at Bed Bath And Beyond...the escalator ride is the 'Beyond' part.

Discuss.
this is great. I see that chaining myself to the Bayou's patio furniture saved the Square.
Posted: Aug 12, 2005 2:36 pm
 
"An escalator can never break. It can only become stairs. You would never seen an Escalator temporarily out of order sign, just Escalator temporarily stairs. Sorry for the convenience."

Mitch Hedberg
Posted: Aug 12, 2005 4:27 pm | Edited by: Matthew
 
"But when you go to Home Depot you're on a mission. When you go to Target you're on an excursion."-from above article
Posted: Aug 12, 2005 5:48 pm
 
I've been stuck on the Hickory Ridge Mall Dillards Escalator,and did'nt think I was gonna make it out alive.
Posted: Aug 12, 2005 6:08 pm
 
What is so great abnout the shopping cart escalator is that you just push it straight on and it locks into these cogs and rides straight up like magic. I can't really explain clearly but putting your cart in the "hands" of that escalator is like taking some weird leap of faith.
Posted: Aug 12, 2005 6:24 pm
 
that Sears Tower location would be verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry convenient for some of us folks... and mi thanh would become Super Mi Thanh and serve 5000 pho tais a day.
Posted: Aug 12, 2005 7:53 pm
 
Posted: Aug 12, 2005 8:02 pm
 
Holy shit, Matthew. Thanks! This really has been bugging me. I deamt about it the other night. I envisioned some wierd conveyor belts, and you had to put down some sort of brake on the back wheel. But stuff kept getting mixed up in people's carts because of gravity.

"I use the terms "this is surreal" and "I hate hipsters" and "there's no way this could be happening" every day but then last night at Target it became clear that all the other times I said it and didn't mean it it was just practice for this singularly bizarre event.

Brilliant!
Posted: Aug 12, 2005 8:19 pm
 
JUST WHAT I NEEDED! Thanks Matthew! I need to copy that page for viewing whenever I feel like it.
Posted: Aug 12, 2005 8:24 pm
 
you're welcome
you're welcome
and I apologize.
Posted: Aug 12, 2005 10:30 pm
 
the shopping cart escalator is everything that the segway, sadly, has not yet proved to be- awe-inspiring yet practical.
Posted: Aug 15, 2005 2:39 pm
 
Target can actually be pretty creative with it's spaces. I rememer reading an article a couple of years ago about some inner-city stores in Chicago that had to be built on smaller lots. And when I lived in NYC, they actually set up a store in a townhouse in Tribeca. I think it may have just been for the Christmas season though.
Posted: Aug 15, 2005 3:21 pm
 
in NYC, they actually set up a store in a townhouse in Tribeca. I think it may have just been for the Christmas season though.

Yes, that is true. It was fun & cool while it was there for the 2 weeks. THey also had bargains galore.

There is however a Target store in Brooklyn. Its not so cost-effective as it claims to be or as it teased us, though. In fact, it has higher prices than some of the stores in the "mall" its in - which is on Atlantic Ave, near the Long Island Railroad train station - a sort of junction where ghetto meets middle class and starter family (ie:leash & stroller wannabe) neighborhoods. Target is therefore aspirational for the ghetto people, OK for the middle class, but the starter families are lining up to join Costco instead.

I wonder if the Memphis neighborhood where this Target is slated to go into is the same kind of neighborhood it went into in Brooklyn.

I don't mind Target in the burbs, but here at my putative "home," I hate it. It doesn't really deliver. KMart, believe it or not, is a pretty good deal. Most NYers I know deplored the idea when they came in.
Posted: Aug 15, 2005 4:40 pm
 
IKEA! screw target!
Particle board all the way!
Posted: Aug 15, 2005 5:15 pm
 
You got that right. Though Ikea doesn't have the cheap but good detergent, dish and hand soap line.
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