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Posted: May 16, 2010 4:29 pm
We have a show at Murphys memphis that needs two local bands whom can draw a decent crowd. For more details please email us at strongtowerentertainment@yahoo.com
Posted: May 17, 2010 10:39 am
Posted: May 17, 2010 11:40 am
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Posted: May 19, 2010 3:35 pm
That is funny, we just hit up Murphy's for the June 23rd and were told the same. Find local support, pay for the PA and if you want to get paid, find someone to take a cover. We just want to play your city. No guarantees asked except the ability to sell merch after the show... In return if you want to play Dallas, we'll hook you up and tell our friends how cool you were to us.

Anyone have any ideas?

Frankie 45
Posted: May 19, 2010 3:38 pm
Anyone have any ideas?

Try jumping on a show or reconsider touring until people have heard of you and want to come see you.
Posted: May 19, 2010 4:00 pm
Thanks for your fast reply and I totally agree w/ you HeyRadio, but we've been asked to play this gig in Atlanta. That show is set in stone w/ good promotion / radio support, so it'd be best to play Memphis on the way if possible. We played an impromptu show at some club on last Fall on Beale St on our way to a party in Chatanooga because the bartender asked us to.

It wasn't our normal crowd by any means, punkrock / rockabilly, but it went well. Don't remember much after that as a lot of people got us wasted after. Now we'd like to at least try to play w/ some plan of action. Aside from Murphy's, we're awaiting reply from Nocturnal and fixing to hit up the Buccaneer if we don't hear back from them soon.
Posted: May 19, 2010 4:10 pm
I'm at work, so I can't say too much here, but last night was kind of an eye-opener, and I kind of have some new thoughts on this. More later.
Posted: May 19, 2010 8:45 pm
Well if it has anything to do helping us out or getting you band out here, I look forward to hearing from you Jack. thanks
Posted: May 19, 2010 8:50 pm
I gotta catch a vi show. I want to hear "steven seagal".
Posted: May 20, 2010 3:08 am | Edited by: Jack Stands
First: I would like to formally submit that strongtowerentertainment is
the worst user name ever. I have not checked, as Vinyl Ritchie
purports, that strongtowerentertainment is a Christian band magnate. I
do not care either way. strongtowerentertainment. I do not know what
that name means. You are a Strong Tower? In Entertainment? What does this mean?
Do you defend against orcs and stricken peasants? Curious, holler.

Next: For Frankie 45.
Find local support, pay for the PA and if you want to get paid, find
someone to take a cover. We just want to play your city. No guarantees
asked except the ability to sell merch after the show...

Am still formulating my argument about this; it has nothing to do with
your band, first and foremost. I haven't even clicked the link.
I don't want bands to stop coming here ever. May not be my cup of tea
and I may or may not go. Lots and lots of times, I don't. But I do go
see bands when I can.

I went to the Hi-Tone last night, and although I didn't have a glow
stick, there was techno for the man-on-the-go at 1:30 in the morning
with plenty of folks still doing their whatever-it-is-they-are-doing.
But as for bands, Tuesday night in Memphis absolutely sucks. Tuesday has my vote for "Absolute Worst Night For Gigs", followed by "Fuck it! I partied last night" Mondays. We played a club last night with two out-of-town, first-time-to-Memphis bands. Seven people, and I'm pretty sure 3 of them were just there for the free wi-fi and beer. It's not to say you can't make money on a weeknight, but people got to know who you are (I'm sure it's the same in other cities).
You make points about an unknown, out of town band trying to book in
Memphis. The bars are correct about trying to get a local band in.
Have more to say, but will come back, as it is late as shit.
Posted: May 20, 2010 11:47 am
Damn Jack, you sure took some time in responding, appreciate your insight. I bartend in Dallas and agree w/ all you've said about Tuesdays and out of town bands. In fact your home boys Lucero played a small intimate gig at the place I was working a couple of years back. Jay Reatard also was supposed to play about a year ago but got wasted that afternoon w/a couple of underage girls and then refused to play when the GM wouldn't let the girls in. In both cases those guys are known and could pack the house on any given night. I can't recall any other Memphis area bands that we have any ties with at all, or believe me I'd be in touch w/ them right now.

Yeah Tuesdays do suck but we're looking for something on Wednesday, 6/ 23, just slightly not as bad. When we support out of towners and even bonified national acts, we almost always out draw them any night of the week and depending if they're cool or not, give them the door just to help 'em on their way.

I have listened to your band the SonsaBitches and both Rock and Drive are some mighty heavy shit. Really rockin... It's really cool you guys have been at it for so long and have done such a great job documenting the fun you've been having w/ whatever members. We just tear through bassists on a regular basis, averaging one a year.

btw - Heard back from Nocturnal and they also charge for PA rental. That's kind'a weird to me as no place in Dallas does that, then again a lot of clubs here would probably still be here if they did. Aside from that they were real helpful in suggesting a couple of other places including the Buccaneer, which is my goal to contact today.

Do me a favor, give us a listen and if you can suggest any band of similar energy or attitude that we should get in touch with, I'd really appreciate the referral. Josh the Devil & the Sinners are helping us out in Little Rock (as we have them in TX) and Mon Cherie (who has seen us before) and her burlesque troupe are giving us a hand in Atlanta. If your band is up to it I think we could make some noise. Once confirmed we've got press kits and connections to work on the promo front that should also help draw some people. Fingers crossed / thanks.
Posted: May 20, 2010 11:50 am
Posted: May 20, 2010 12:07 pm
Aren't there any house shows or DIY spaces in this town?
Posted: May 20, 2010 12:19 pm
A DIY space would also work... btw was checking out radio, WEVL and what programs we should send promo stuff to and came across Ben Vaughn. I had no idea he was living in Memphis now, very cool. His bass player for many years grew up w/ my dad and he stayed at my house as a kid during the Dressed in Black tour. In fact my old man hooked him up w/ a gig and radio too here so we'll see.... Don't know if he'll remember me but am hitting him up just the same for info / referrals. We're gonna play Memphis yet.
Posted: May 20, 2010 12:24 pm
doesn't live here
Posted: May 20, 2010 12:24 pm
WEVL and what programs we should send promo stuff to and came across Ben Vaughn. I had no idea he was living in Memphis now, very cool.

Actually, Ben lives in L.A. and records a show/sends it to the station weekly.
Posted: May 20, 2010 12:54 pm
Well Damn! I sent him an e-mail just the same... Am glad he's doing well, and 'My Baby Loves that Big Drum Sound' is a killer song to this day. Aside from that I called the Buccaneer because they don't book through myspace and can't find an e-mail address for them, and will get back w/ them later.

Hey, I just want to say thanks to all of you for your input here on a thread that another band started, that's stuck in the same situation. I wonder if strongtowerentertainment is doing any better w/ tying down their show??? Again if any of you punk and / or Rockabilly bands need help in Big D don't hesitate to get in touch. We're a little short on venues at this moment too but can definitely hook you up somewhere. thanks!
Posted: May 20, 2010 1:50 pm
I'm on my lunch break, so I'll try to do sum up what I wanted to say last night really fast. I've taken to this thread because (you probably didn't realize) just your initial posts kind of open up a couple of cans of worms that have been fought about back and forth in the Memphis and ???? sections of the board for years. We'll get to those points in a moment, but specific to you, your comment:
No guarantees
asked except the ability to sell merch after the show...

This is almost a newer subject, but I feel it's important.
Vaction vs. Vocation
Every band that tours wants to make some money, and rightfully so. As such (I'm sure it's the same in many a town), typically the local bands that are gathered to put on the shows for the out-of-town bands give all the door to the touring band.
I am inferring from your statement that you guys in planning your tour are doing what most bands should do, which is get some supporting cash together to make sure you can handle actual cost of the tour, instead of relying on the gigs to pay off. Again, every band on tour should be able to make as much as they can on top of their operations purse; that's the whole point. But there are several bands who come through that do not plan as well, and they rely on their "art". It happens a lot, actually, and that's one of the many reasons locals give their door share to the touring band; out of sheer habit and good-naturedness. My sentiment is that most bands should always treat their tour as a vacation and plan accordingly, unless you are confident that your name will bring in folks regardless of the local bands.
As I mentioned before, we had the two out of town bands come through the other night on a Tuesday; as the local band, we secured the venue, made sure there was security to make it an 18+ show, scheduled it as an early show to try to bring in folks that have to work the next day, and our guitar player is the soundguy (typically) for the club, so PA rental was discounted. Made sure to tip the bartender well, did the door ourselves, bought at least one of each item of merch each band had. All to make sure the bands had an easy time here, in spite of the lack-luster crowd, if only to encourage and spread the word for bands to come here. One band was driving down to Dallas the next day, and the other to freakin' New Hampshire. And at the end of the night, you know what?
Both bands were, like, "Man thanks so much! It's cool if nobody came out, we were just glad to play here finally." I imagine their attitude was based heavilly on the fact that they Planned for the tour. It's not to say we wouldn't have worked just as hard for them if we didn't have to worry about it in the beginning, but I felt a lot better about them splitting the $35 from the door.
What may be unusual for bands doing this planning is the PA rental. Not every club here does it, but the ones that do can certainly have a valid point for it: PA Rental for some clubs come from the door, others from the bar, and some places are DIY. Paying for the PA can become a big deal, especially for weeknights.
PA from door:
PA from Bar:
Poplar Lounge (I think)

I have to go back to work, but I'll get back on here tonight about radio, promo, why some bands won't play with other bands, etc.

Memphis is funky, to say the least.
Posted: May 20, 2010 1:51 pm
Also, there aren't too many house shows...
Posted: May 20, 2010 2:03 pm
but I'll get back on here tonight about radio, promo, why some bands won't play with other bands, etc.
...and also the seeming futility of the "early show".
Posted: May 20, 2010 2:45 pm
Jack Stands for mayor!
Posted: May 21, 2010 1:57 am
Not so fast, hennypenny.
I'll try to make this quick and less ugly.

I don't know what type of "college stations" or "community stations" are available in Dallas, but I can tell you this: Memphis Radio is dead. Much of the airwaves are taken up by corporate blah-blahs that shuttle music from a "service". None are interested in promoting shows, unless they are at the casinos.
There is no college radio here except one, and it plays "Regional Forecast-style" Weather Channel jazz. WEVL is the community station. There are some DJs that play local and out-of-town bands, but they are few and far between. The rest of it is filled with world-music and country. Thinking about this thread today, I listened to WEVL on the ways to and from my lunch-break post above. jbh, great guy and poster on here, was playing rare dub/reggae spliffs. Memphis is nothing, if not Carribean, surely. On the way back to work, some DJ had MIFA representatives on (MIFA is the local "food bank" that does an incredible job trying to feed the folks here who can't afford to eat); they played MLK jr's Mountain Top speech. O.K.
sixelsix and vinyl ritchie (who have posted in this thread) have pretty good shows (power-pop and heavy rock, respectively).
However, WEVL isn't going to plug any show that is not tied to their fund-drives. It's community based, I don't want it to go away, but they are no "college station" when it comes to promoting shows.
I've talked to many folks around the country and heard stories of radio stations actively promoting gigs (college and community based). I am jealous of them, but you just ain't gonna get that in Memphis. So that's my Radio "two-cents".

I'm sure you know, that Internet thing is catching on. Flyers don't do much, but we put them up anyway. Honestly? I find out about shows I want to go see on the Internet.

The Futillity of the Early Show:
It's not that they don't happen. Notorious threads and polls have been launched about this ideal in the past. Folks with jobs don't want to wait until 11:30 on a weeknight to see the first band play, when they came to see the last band. And they would gladly come out and rock if shows started earlier. Or so they say. This has been tried a little more than a handfull of times over the past few years, but with VERY LITTLE SUCCESS on weeknights. Unless an Early show starts on a weekend, hang it up.

Bands that don't want to play with other bands:
Please note, that we're talking about playing Memphis proper, meaning, predominantly midtown. There are several other clubs out east and downtown that will host all maner of other gigs. There are also several other band cliques from hardcore to country that have their own circles. I put almost all bands in Memphis under five categories, regardless of the "scene":
1. Bands that just don't give a shit and want to play
2. Bands that are strictly alligned with their genre
3. Bands that only want to play with bigger bands
4. Bands concerned about their "art"
5. Bands looking to "make it"

The reality of any member of any of those band types listening to a requesting out-of-town-band's myspace and deciding "those dudes suck" trumps all, however.

Again, just my two cents.

One last point: It could be me, but right now, there seems to be fewer Memphis bands. Could certainly be my own narrow viewpoint, but it seems like we've lost a few of the No. 1 variety.
I miss the Perfect Fits. T.S.O.T. doesn't seem to play out much. I'm still trying to figure out if the Barbaras still play or not. I've recorded bands in the past year that no longer seem to exist (I'm looking at Pop Gunz). It's weird, but Memphis seems to be missing a few bands.

Anyway, to get to your original question, I'll check with my dudes in vi to see if they are available for your show. I still haven't listened to the myspace, maybe I will this weekend. No offense, I don't really care. In spite of Memphis' quirkiness (which I'm sure many other places have the same deal), I never, ever, ever want to tell a band not to come here. Unless I listen to you later and hate you.

Rant over.
Posted: May 21, 2010 2:01 am
p.s., sonsabitches haven't played in years. I keep the website to post live music from memphis.
Posted: May 21, 2010 8:01 am
Remember that one man grindcore band you wanted to fight? That was awesome.
Posted: May 21, 2010 8:40 am
1. Bands that just don't give a shit and want to play
2. Bands that are strictly alligned with their genre
3. Bands that only want to play with bigger bands
4. Bands concerned about their "art"
5. Bands looking to "make it"

I would love to see an exhaustive list of all Memphis bands broken down into these categories.
Posted: May 21, 2010 8:40 am

TSOT is awaiting our "album release party..." HA!
Posted: May 21, 2010 2:23 pm
Am swamped right now but look forward to hearing back from you and if vi want to play... Where can I find / hear vi??? btw we fall under category #1. Bands that just don't give a shit and want to play...
Posted: May 23, 2010 10:30 pm
Hey Jack, Helluva weekend. Worked my tail off at the club, got a new motorcycle and rescued a puppy that was fixin to be put to sleep. Am hoping to hear back from you about the 23rd. We're kind of at a standstill until then. Hope you had a good one as well. Let me know, thanks!
Posted: May 23, 2010 10:32 pm
Oh yeah was reading the Memphis Flyer too the other day trying to figure out who is best to hit up w/ a presskit and heard back from Ben who is indeed in LA but said he'd try to find something for us as well.
Posted: May 23, 2010 10:58 pm
Jesus Robin, you are a genius. If I had seen this before last night, I would have bought your drinks all night. Next time.
Posted: May 24, 2010 2:38 am
Posted: May 24, 2010 9:06 am
One last point: It could be me, but right now, there seems to be fewer Memphis bands. Could certainly be my own narrow viewpoint, but it seems like we've lost a few of the No. 1 variety.

Next Weekend,Memorial Day Weekend, you have a local festival of all local bands playing for free just to promote memphis music and have a good time. 20 bands, two days and lots of different styles of music. I see lots of Memphis bands, just maybe not as many in our genre at the moment. Underground, dedicated musicians with only the desire to play good music, bring good music to memphis and urge memphis creativity. There are plenty of bands in Memphis.
Posted: May 24, 2010 1:03 pm
Could certainly be my own narrow viewpoint, but it seems like we've lost a few of the No. 1 variety.

Definitely your own narrow viewpoint.

TSOT, Noise Choir, Jack O., Harlan, No Comply, VI, RCT, cough*Hosoi Bros*cough, JPK, etc..
Posted: May 24, 2010 1:09 pm
Tanks. Dirty Streets. Angel Sluts. Modern Convenience. The Drawls. Burning Sands.
Posted: May 24, 2010 3:35 pm
I've recorded bands in the past year that no longer seem to exist (I'm looking at Pop Gunz)

kyle (from Pop Guns) and i are working on starting a new band as we speak, called The False Profits!
Posted: May 24, 2010 7:28 pm
btw we fall under category #1. Bands that just don't give a shit and want to play...
Just picked up on this Thread, so Impressed by what Jack Stands has posted and by what Frankie 45 has posted that I have just been in contact with Jack Stands and....well check back shortly , he will post it for ya.
Posted: May 24, 2010 7:32 pm
Dear Frankie 45,
You, sir, are booked for Wednesdy night, JUNE 23rd, at Nocturnal in Memphis. In fact, I got a call from the club owner after he read this thread. In even more fact, so moved was this gentleman, he is also waving the PA rental just for that night for your show.
I'll check with vi tonight at practice and post later (no promises, our drummer may be out of town for his job, but I'll check). Otherwise, we'll do our best to get some supporting bands.
Would like to see if severin or Wire will be able to pitch in to get some #1 bands for the evening...

Posted: May 24, 2010 7:34 pm | Edited by: Jack Stands
And, seriously, thanks to Nocturnal; pretty awesome of you guys. STEPPING UP THE GAME IN 2010!
get at me, Frankie 45 at master(at)thesonsabitches<dot>com
Posted: May 24, 2010 8:21 pm
Oh Man You Guys are life savers thanks! Is that Benny from Nocturnal? You really went out of your way to point us in the right direction over on myspace. And you Jack have really gone beyond the call of duty when it came down to helping a stranger out. Will be in touch w/ you Jack via e-mail. Thank You very much / will start on contacting media, We won't disappoint!
Posted: May 24, 2010 9:08 pm
Frankie45, watch your back. Literally.

If robin is doing this much work for you, i can tell you he wants something in return. That something being to bang your balloon knot. He does this for a lot of out of town bands.

Cause he's a big flamin faggot.

Who likes to bang out of town band dudes.

Just sayin.
Posted: May 24, 2010 9:15 pm
Sev is in a #1 band. He might be able to help. I'm just jealous on the sidelines, missing Eavy Eagle.
Posted: May 24, 2010 9:22 pm
Sev is in a #1 band

Very True!

Posted: May 24, 2010 9:37 pm | Edited by: Tommy Trouble
I think the trick is that in Memphis, there's a LOT of talent.
However, most people don't really want to work at being in a band; they just want to play for fun.

Actually, that might not be true. I think the truth is actually in the middle somewhere. Bands will play as long as it's fun and artistically gratifying. When either of those things is gone, fuck it.

Most of the musicians in Memphis are fairly unique characters. Most would rather not compromise anything like playing with (or FOR someone) they don't like to reach a bigger audience or simply play a show.

It's probably why we have one of the best rock scenes in the country. It's also why we have one of the most infuriating/meretricious rock scenes in the country.

I'm as guilty as anyone. I'd love to play bass in a new band, but I'm picky about who I play with (not that my musical ability affords me much reason to be picky). Drinking beer and playing music is fun, but it has to be gratifying as well (I'm pretty sure this is why Jay always hated the Final Solutions).

Folks just want to keep on moving forward.

PS. Bruce is a Douche. Court is a Cunt, Scott is a Cock, Joe is a Foe, J.D. I s a Boo-Tey, and Andrew is a cunt-gash.
Posted: May 24, 2010 10:19 pm
Tommy, you're spreading yourself way too thin.
Posted: May 24, 2010 11:44 pm
jerryd, I'd never call your mom an "out-of-town-dude".
Posted: May 24, 2010 11:47 pm
vi is pretty much in, Frankie 45. Waiting on "Guitar player" and his "schedule".
I have no doubt Hosoi Bros are down for fun; except severin. He's sensitive and cooks.

Wire, if I can ever find a second bass cabinet, Heavy Beagle Reunion is on! Chasing out the regular folk!
Posted: May 24, 2010 11:51 pm
jerryd, I'd never call your mom an "out-of-town-dude".

My mom's dead.

but if you're into that kind of stuff, she's in a box in my closet.

what's your pleasure???
Posted: May 25, 2010 12:24 am
Weird. I thought you always called that blow-up doll of yours "mom".
My mistake.
p.s., sorry about your mom.
Posted: May 25, 2010 4:18 pm
vi is in
Posted: May 25, 2010 7:46 pm
So the line up vi, Spector 45 for sure. and not sure, just coz I don't know the bands but are Hosoi Brothers and Heavy Beagle on as well? Just found vi looking for both of them and y'all play some old school hardcore - very cool. Reminds me of DRI.

I've been in touch w/ the Memphis Belles too because we work w/ play w/ a lot of Burlesque troupes and Derby girls. Just saying let's make this a party!
Posted: May 25, 2010 9:00 pm
Heavy Beagle, No. Don't know about Hosoi Bros.
Posted: May 25, 2010 10:03 pm
What about Widows and Recluses?
Posted: May 25, 2010 11:26 pm
This show sounds cool. Very cool thread.
Posted: May 26, 2010 3:31 pm
hosoi bros is a definite no.
Posted: May 26, 2010 4:23 pm
tell me is this severin of the stateline hearts? if so, you've got a sweet clean sound that would work nicely. Just saying...
Posted: May 26, 2010 6:55 pm
I haven't heard the Hosoi Bros. yet. So I don't know about his sound in this band, but if there were any two words I'd use to describe Severin in general, they would be sweet and clean!
Posted: May 26, 2010 7:05 pm
I can vouch for his cleanliness (besides the stache)
Posted: May 26, 2010 9:38 pm
tell me is this severin of the stateline hearts?

stateline hearts was me trying to make money. hosoi bros only play when there are free drinks to be had. generally speaking.
Posted: May 26, 2010 9:55 pm
hosoi bros only play when there are free drinks to be had

..and that's why you guys rule.
Posted: May 27, 2010 2:05 pm
stateline hearts was me trying to make money. hosoi bros only play when there are free drinks to be had. generally speaking.

Uhhhhhhh, don't listen to Sev. We totally love money. He doesn't even drink.
Posted: May 27, 2010 4:33 pm
This thread is the closest we've been to a Heavy Beagle gig in over a year.
Posted: May 27, 2010 4:48 pm
Hey Jack sent you an email a couple of days ago, don't know if you got it. Have been talking w/ Doug at Nocturnal, cool guy. His bud is playing at a bike shop I go to regularly so if I'm not working will stop by and say hey. Anyway, would love to get another band or two on the bill, and yeah Wire that'd be great if you did a reunion, if you don't mind my saying so.

Fact; Nocturnal's being real cool about this and personally I'd love to see a blow out on a Wednesday for no other reason than it's Wednesday night. Nobody ever does anything on Wednesdays, at least not here, so why not? Hell it'll be almost 4th of July, it's gonna be hot / things will be slowing down and work kind'a takes a backseat during this time of year, ya know? Besides, they've got great prices on beer, so we can meet a whole bunch folks, rock each others faces off and party till we're stupid.

What else is there to do, be responsible?
Posted: May 27, 2010 6:45 pm
This guy knows how to sell a show.
Posted: Jun 22, 2010 12:27 pm
Allright folks we're 24 hours away and fixing to walk out the door. Hope to see some of you come out tomorrow night. Jack has done a great job lining up the bill and Nocturnal has gone out of it's way to work w/ us, so come on out and let's drink some beer and rock eachothers faces off. Okay? Cool!
Posted: Jun 22, 2010 12:37 pm
Hopes alot of the people following this tread will come out and enjoy the bands for this event and lets show the guys from Dallas and our locals some support!!
Posted: Jun 22, 2010 1:13 pm
Dudes, it's all about the power point presentations and videos between bands now. We'll be needing the big projector, Doug! And tell Chris, I'll finally bring his coffee tomorrow night!

TSOT in the house!
Alita at the door!
Crazy Lights and Fog Machines!
Spector 45!
More Me in the Monitor!
Posted: Jul 3, 2010 2:40 am
Did this show happen? I read this thread thinking that it would be the typical "lets fuck with em" thread, but it ended well. I need closure.

It's 3:39 am. Why am I still up....
Posted: Jul 3, 2010 8:03 pm
Yes, it did.

Further proof that threads like these and even polling efforts are mainly just a bunch of talk. No offense to Hemant, who started the threads, just some of the "strong opinions" expressed in them.
Posted: Jul 4, 2010 2:26 am | Edited by: misslinda
I hear Jim Dandy's on tour, and lookin' fer gigs when he gits back.
You caint ax for nobetter-n-thatern!!!
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