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Posted: Jan 20, 2010 12:30 pm
 
Posted: Jan 20, 2010 1:45 pm
 
It sucks for the kids and the Doc that worked tirelessly on this, but why couldn't there be a private/public partnership for this? Lease some other vacant land in the city for like a buck a year, give free access to the park to poor kids to give them something to do with their idle time, everybody else pays, and the park could be run as a non-profit with minimal interference/permission from the city.

"Black people feel like when other folks want something, they just do it,"

Not since the Minerva Johnican era of the city council, but it sure gets the people on your side when you inject some civil rights struggle allusions into the debate.
Posted: Jan 20, 2010 3:45 pm
 
"Black people feel like when other folks want something, they just do it,"

At the "show of interest" get-together at the Fairgrounds, it was a 50/50 mix of black and white kids. Aaron Shafer has been bringing kids of all colors over to the one decent (privately funded) place to skate in town and has done more than his part to give kids something to do in this town & help move us forward.

Whether the City can afford to spend the money is one thing. But her race / Historical Area argument is bullshit.
Posted: Jan 21, 2010 2:33 pm
 
She is showing her ass bigtime. Not that every time she opens her damn trap she doesn't, but my God. Her acting like "No one ever told ME about this!" is just so wrong on so many levels. Her constituents she claims to care so much about should look into that Queen Bee attitude of her's a little more and see at the very least that she wasn't even paying attention to her precious district if she claims to not know hide nor hair of this project. I live miles from Glenview and knew about it without even trying!

Wanda Halbert: Our Own African-American Version of THIS
Posted: Jan 21, 2010 2:39 pm
 
Wanda Halbert. At least she's just on the city council. Imagine how fucked up the city would become if we granted her any serious responsibilities.
Posted: Jan 21, 2010 3:04 pm
 
Imagine how fucked up the city would become if we granted her any serious responsibilities.

The horror. She doesn't even understand the difference between the funding stream from which the skate park money comes from and the stream for utility bill subsidizing. So, if she doesn't get that one, she certainly doesn't get that it would be potentially criminally mismanaging funds to take her suggestion.

There is no other Memphis politician I hate worse than her...other than Herenton of course, but that goes without sayin.
Posted: Jan 21, 2010 3:09 pm
 
Oh my! This was posted on Twitter last night: Wanda's comment to the CA regarding that story! I have to say that though she (natch) comes off like the haughty without a cause, stupid brow-beating fool we all know she is, she has a HUGE point if no one ever had a community involvement meeting--even just one--about this proposal. But, she still should have known about it as the rep from that district and a Memphis City Councilwoman.

Here t'is:


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WandaHalbert writes:

From time to time I would view reader comments of CA articles until I began to realize, many of the comments have been allowed to become too racially, politically, economically, and socially divisive based on one-sided articles regarding Memphis, its citizens, leadership, etc.

I have NEVER been invited to a meeting or a conversation about developing a skate park until I was asked about putting one in my district late December, 2009. Without knowing there had been a team/group meeting with park officials over the past year or so, I responded based on today's economy, the hardships many citizens face, lost jobs, homes, etc. I could not understand why Memphis government would begin talking about such a project today when there are so many challenges we have yet dealt with.

Is a skate park in Glenview a good idea? I wouldn't know because after months/years of discussions, its residents and leadership have been inappropriately excluded from any conversations or plans about one!

Glenview just as Evergreen and many other neighborhoods is a historic community with a number of traditional and aging families. We are totally unaware of what a skate park concept, the proposal, its benefits to the community and citizens, the investment or liability of city government, or why this particular park was chosen. For any group of individuals to leave their own communities and make decisions for another without including them in the concept or plans is completely disrespectful and irresponsible. To become angry when questioned is arrogant. How many of you will let everyday citizens who don't live in your neighborhood, create a plan and implement it for you and your families without your knowledge or input? That is what has happened with this project. I have not "killed" the skate park project because I never knew one existed!

Many of Memphis' leadership work very hard for our constituents only to be labeled as crooks, thieves, liars, and even racists. Are they perfect? My answer would be no - - are you? Unless one knows the whole story of an issue, to make inappropriate comments and assumptions could simply show a side of those who thrive on prejudice and divisiveness!

I wonder if the councilmember(s) involved in the Overton Square project received the same negative comments for standing up for their constituents, let's research it and see!
Posted: Jan 21, 2010 4:46 pm | Edited by: littlemisslinda
 
Many of Memphis' leadership work very hard for our constituents only to be labeled as crooks, thieves, liars, and even racists.

yup

I'd go so far as to say close to 25% of the black Memphis population hate white people.
Posted: Jan 21, 2010 5:18 pm
 
She adamn fool. But...I will say that if they are/were going to build a skatepark, Glenview was not the place to do it for alot of reasons. Over by the board of education was much better!
Posted: Jan 21, 2010 5:39 pm
 
She doesn't even understand the difference between the funding stream from which the skate park money comes from and the stream for utility bill subsidizing.

I was wondering if that was really the case or if she just made that comment to be taken without the context to appeal to the uninformed -but got called on it by the CA.

She should be drug behind a bus.

How many of you will let everyday citizens who don't live in your neighborhood, create a plan and implement it for you and your families without your knowledge or input?

I wonder how much "knowledge and input" she has actually recieved from her constituency. Those Black skater kids got to live somewhere. This is not a landfil or a electrical transformer that would necessitate the NIMBY reaction, this is an amenity that will bring people to a park that is under-utilized and kind of scary, precisely because it is so infrequently used. At least a group of kids with "something-to-do" would be preferable to a group of kids, shiftless and idle, dealing rock. The first time a white skater kid from the suburbs gets busted with crack, the police will start paying much closer attention to the goings-on in the park.

She should be given AIDS, covered with honey, and left tied up in the sun to be pissed on by vagrants.
Posted: Jan 21, 2010 6:08 pm
 
I really don't think that they should give up just because of her. The park belongs to all city residents, not just the ones in her district, and the whole council should have a say.
Posted: Jan 21, 2010 7:03 pm
 
If the citizens and the city council rolls over for Wanda just because it's in her district, it dissolves the credibility of the process.

Not that the process had a lot of credibility to begin with, but this is just plain wrong. Some of the other comments in that thread on the CA are full of antiquated notions about who we are as a city, too. How is it that people in the district itself don't get it?
Posted: Jan 21, 2010 8:07 pm
 
Piss and honey, I say.
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 9:53 am
 
Glenview just as Evergreen and many other neighborhoods is a historic community with a number of traditional and aging families. We are totally unaware of what a skate park concept, the proposal, its benefits to the community and citizens, the investment or liability of city government, or why this particular park was chosen

First of all, how does Glenview being "a historic neighborhood" have ANYTHING to do with ANYTHING? Is she just throwing this term in there to adjoin mentally with the whole Overton Square brouhaha or what? And in the second sentence (which also makes no sense on several levels), does she somehow mean to say that "Residents of a historic neighborhood have no awareness of concepts like skateparks because we live in a historic neighborhood"?

Not to mention her bizarre (and definitely racist) implications of people "leaving their own communities" to involve, well, other communities in the same exact city as, a matter of fact, being "irresponsible, disrespectful and arrogant"; that just blows me away. Especially given that last month--at the very least--she was asked by the Parks if she thought having a community meeting about the skate park would be a good idea. If that isn't involving them--and HER, because truly that is all she cares about--I don't know what is.

Piss, honey and week-old garbage.
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 11:07 am
 
Week old piss
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 12:58 pm
 
Burger King dumpster.
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 3:23 pm
 
Sorry, I am in Seattle, but I am involved with Skate Park Advocacy here. I won't bore you with the amount of parks meetings I have had to sit through in the last 6 years. Yawn city...

If you can join this group. They have a forum.

http://www.skatepark.org/

This area helps with sample letters (and TONS of information)

http://www.skatepark.org/public-skatepark-development-guide.html

Get a group together and then try to pick a couple of folks that either own businesses in Memphis and seem a little more straight laced. Strength in numbers. Go to meetings and sign up to speak if you can. Go to parks meetings in general, since most money for your entire community could have been set aside 4 years ago.

Or just do what my boyfriend and his 3 close buddies did. Build it yourself and then get the city on your side. They built on a really bad part of town and changed the entire area. 6 years ago it had mobile meth labs, needles, homeless camps. Now they have soccer mom's sitting in cars watching their kids skate.

http://www.marginalwayskatepark.org/


Read the Public Skatepark Development Guide. It's FREE or you can download it.


30 Reasons for Skateparks
Written by Chris Gilligan

Need to build a case for skateparks? Here are a few good reasons to get you started.
1.Skateboarders need safe places to recreate.
2.Skateparks, if designed and constructed correctly, are fiscally conservative and require very little maintenance.
3.Compared to other sports, skateboarding is underserved in the area.
4.Skateboarding has millions of participants nationally and it's still growing while more traditional sports are in decline. There are currently abundant facilities for these other sports.
5.Skateboarding is a multi-million dollar industry.
6.Skateboarders represent a vital part of an urban community.
7.A skatepark can attract skateboarding tourists if designed to do so.
8.With national health issues looming for today's youth, it's time to offer a greater number of healthy, athletic choices.
9.The cost to participate is accessible to every economic class.
10.Thousands of other communities have come to understand the value of skateparks.
11.Skating in a park is much safer than skating in the streets.
12.The community already has hundreds, and maybe thousands of skateboarders.
13.In the future there are going to be many legitimate places to skate in the city. The time to embark on that positive future is now.
14.A skatepark is a place where skateboarders and other people who might not cross paths in the street can come together.
15.Skateparks can displace other less desirable activities in an area.
16.The skatepark can be an attraction for family vacations.
17.Skateboarding is "cool," And a skatepark will enhance the community's reputation.
18.Good skateparks often have volunteer teams to help maintain the facility.
19.Skateparks can draw skateboarders away from less appropriate areas.
20.Young and old people use skateparks.
21.Skateparks support vibrant, healthy communities, just like many other athletic facilities.
22.Skateboarding is mainstream.
23.Skateboarding is a popular spectator sport.
24.Skateparks are flexible in design and can work in many different size plots.
25.The skatepark can be a place to go after school.
26.Neighborhood skateparks allow younger skaters to recreate safely close to home.
27.Skateboarding is happening with or without a skatepark.
28.There are experts who can help the community plan out their next skatepark.
29.The best time to start the new skatepark is today.
30.If a city doesn't have a skatepark, it is a skatepark.
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 4:16 pm
 
Thanks Ida, we do have a great group (Skatelife Memphis) whose efforts really got this going and they continue to bust their ass at having MORE skate parks being financed and built. The leader of the group is awesome.

Here tis:
http://www.skatelifememphis.org/

Wanda "Administrative Assistant NOT Secretary" Halbert not even being cognizant of this group nor their efforts proves she is useless as a council rep for Memphis. Resign, Wanda, you smell like week-old piss.
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 4:38 pm
 
Don't get discouraged. You have to just keep fighting the good fight.
I want skateparks in my community and I am willing to stand up to make that happened.
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 5:35 pm | Edited by: saispas
 
It gets really hard these days to work all day advocating for and working with kids over in Arkansas, but maybe if I rook a bunch of the Marion kids (black, white, middle class and "trailer trash") to get involved somehow--if they aren't already--and speak to Mizz Halbert and anyone else involved in Memphis politics who want to rake this one great idea over the coals for 5 years, about how important their little city-built skate park has been to them...I can get involved more and help.

It really does stun me to see that a place like Marion thought it was important enough to spend $$$ on and Memphis hasn't gotten it together yet.
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 9:07 pm
 
This is a little dated, but it gives a little window into what you can do yourself.
Punk rock (to me) it DYI -- if you want something, you have to make it happen. I haven't let people tell me what I can't do.

http://www.seattlepi.com/photos/skatepark/

I am a firm believer in doing both. Try to build legal parks and then go find some fucking spot and mix up a few bags of concrete.
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 10:22 pm
 
I have to drive 40 minutes to take my kid to a proper skatepark. It's what he loves so I do it alot. It really is frustrating. That's some good tips ida. I'm at least gonna try to put that 30 reasons to use.
Posted: Jan 23, 2010 9:22 am
 
A coworker of mine is a black woman who lives in Earle, AR, which is like 20 minutes from Marion. Her 13 year old son is a skater and she drives him to Marion on weekends and also let's him come right from school to Marion to the skatepark & takes him home after work. She said since he became a skater, he has made better grades and become an "individual", even though she says he gets made fun of because he wears skinny jeans & Volcom hoodies! NOT the typical look, black or white or otherwise, in East Arkansas!
Posted: Jan 23, 2010 9:43 am
 
I feel that connecting more mainstream society to parks meetings and city meetings helps.

Like skateboard mom.

http://skateboardmom.homestead.com/home.html

Or outreach -- how can someone not love an almost 40 year old skater showing a girl in barbie pads how to skate? If you hold a day when kids and parents can come and learn about skating could also help.

http://www.northwestskater.com/ballardteach.html

Or try something really crazy and organize a skate march. This was a really great day, folks walked, skateboarded, roller skated and we had a police escort! This helped give folks in the community just how many people really skate. When they see 6 people at a parks meeting, they don't get it, but this was really fun.

http://www.northwestskater.com/skatemarch.html
Posted: Jan 23, 2010 11:23 pm
 
It's funny, because there is a secret(giant!) half pipe on Lamar just a little west of the park in a big abandoned construction site or warehouse slab, or something. It seems logical to switch things up and let the skaters use Glenview while redirecting the criminal element to the warehouse slab.
Oh well, I voted for this lady. I thought someone named "Wanda" would be a little cooler...I gotta change my voting technique.
Posted: Jan 24, 2010 2:22 pm
 
oh well, dirtywhite, if it was Wanda Wilson then you'd probably be doin' alright!
Posted: Jan 24, 2010 4:55 pm
 
All you white folks can SUCK MY DICK!
Posted: Jan 24, 2010 4:57 pm | Edited by: Wanda Halbert
 
Wanda "Administrative Assistant NOT Secretary" Halbert not even being cognizant of this group nor their efforts proves she is useless as a council rep for Memphis. Resign, Wanda, you smell like week-old piss.

Fuck You White Bitch!
Posted: Jan 25, 2010 1:57 am | Edited by: indiepop
 
I can understand not being liked because I'm white. However, I can't understand making selfish decisions that primarily affect the social and recreational lives of our children just because I'm white.
Posted: Jan 25, 2010 9:42 am
 
I don't give a goddamn what you don't understand.It's a black thang fooll.
Posted: Apr 27, 2010 8:47 pm
 
Looks like there is funding again

And beer and wine at the Shell.
Posted: Apr 27, 2010 9:37 pm
 
funny comment on that one:

"I just skimmed the article. Did it really say that the zoo is building a skate park for hippos filled with beer that also houses Wanda "my baby wasn't holding no weed" Halbert?"
Posted: Apr 28, 2010 8:17 am
 
Good Luck everyone working on this. If I still lived in Mempho i would volunteer to do anything. Skateboarding saved my life when I was a kid. Instead of balloning out of shape like the rest of my family did when they where in middle school, I jumped on a board a stayed slim and bruised.But enough of my bullshit. Great Job everyone whose working on this so far.
And
Ya'll need to just build. Find vacant, condemmed property whatevea,, and squat. If you improve a condemmed property,,,its your's in theory, get a lawyer .And I'm sure in Binghampton, Orange Mound ,North, South Memphis their has to be space.
Posted: Apr 28, 2010 1:31 pm
 
I also really hope this works out. I was driving home from Memphis last month, went through Louisville and right next to the interstate in the middle of town there was a really well-lit skatepark with hundreds of kids hanging out and having a good time. Black kids and white kids hanging out together; who woulda thunk it?! Props to everyone who is working on this; eventually Memphis will see it as the worthwhile project it is.
Posted: Apr 28, 2010 3:06 pm
 
that louisville park is the bomb.
Posted: Apr 28, 2010 3:17 pm
 
The husband and I are still voting and working our asses off for this park. Trying not to get discouraged...
Posted: Aug 9, 2010 8:29 pm
 
Posted: Aug 9, 2010 8:30 pm
 
If I'm not mistaken, that's near where the first dog park in Memphis is located.
Posted: Aug 10, 2010 8:34 am
 
Great location. Yeah Wire, it is.
Posted: Aug 10, 2010 12:27 pm
 
Yes, a great location! I'm personally proud that was my district? Mr. Strickland that won that fight. Go team go!
Posted: Aug 10, 2010 12:28 pm
 
yeah, meant district/ Mr. Strickland,.....
Posted: Aug 10, 2010 2:36 pm
 
Built by Wormhoudt... should be good!

Check out their other parks... http://www.skateparks.com/completed_parks.php?nid=2#top
Posted: Aug 11, 2010 12:34 am
 
Oh sweet, they built that Louisville park! I notice that Wasilla, AK got a Wormhoudt park eons ago. Sarah Palin gets a skate park before Memphis?? Morally reprehensible.
Posted: Aug 11, 2010 1:32 pm
 
check out the San Jose park, too. WOW.
Posted: Sep 29, 2010 12:37 pm
 
I am posting this since I just blew my mind. Some of the videos of boys and girls skating together in Afghanistan made me misty. If they can build a park, anyone can.

http://skateistan.org/
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