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Posted: Oct 6, 2009 7:44 pm
 
hello. i'm moving to memphis from california in about a month and was wondering if anyone had local recommendations: bars, clubs, bookstores, thrift/vintage stores, independent coffeeshops, venues, etc.

second question: how conducive to biking is memphis? i've got an apartment in downtown and was hoping to bike most everywhere, as my job is between downtown and midtown. is there a memphis critical mass? or much of a fixie culture?

any help is appreciated. cheers.
Posted: Oct 6, 2009 8:35 pm | Edited by: kol 1945
 
there's a critical mass every sunday on Winchester and Lamar...gotta peddle a bit but well worth it!
Posted: Oct 6, 2009 8:39 pm
 
oh yeh most good anarchofeminist anarchy folk-punk is at Stage Stop in Raleigh (a GLBT-friendly suburb of memphis)
Posted: Oct 6, 2009 8:42 pm | Edited by: kol 1945
 
almost forgut...duh!
gotta check out Paris Theatre on Summer Ave. for independent, diy, locally-produced films
Posted: Oct 6, 2009 8:47 pm
 
Apparently, there are some openings in Jay Reatard's band -must be willing to take the piss, tho.
Posted: Oct 6, 2009 8:52 pm | Edited by: kol 1945
 
SAMBEAUX! didnt see you Thursday night at the organic farmers market on Florida and McLemore...whut up!
Posted: Oct 6, 2009 8:54 pm
 
i think he threw a nut
Posted: Oct 6, 2009 8:58 pm
 
I was at the Save the Memphis Manattees meeting.
Posted: Oct 6, 2009 10:03 pm
 
perfect. thanks for the responses. how many folks show up to the critical mass? and what's the recommendation for bike shops?

i'm not very interested in the beale street crowd from what i've seen online. i've also heard cooper-young has lots of different types of shops and has a spot of cultural momentum. true?
Posted: Oct 6, 2009 11:24 pm
 
they're full of shit. memphis sucks ass, cancel the move before it's too late.
Posted: Oct 6, 2009 11:26 pm
 
unless you have good hair/products to share with dan at hi-tone
Posted: Oct 6, 2009 11:34 pm
 
I don't think that would make Memphis suck any less.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 12:29 am
 
ha ha ha memphis and critical mass. fixie culture. that's cute.

did you take a job here without actually visiting first?

free advice: sell your bike and by a late model mercury grand marquis. paint it a color that doesn't occur naturally in nature. put on oversized rims worth five times the value of your car. get a gold grill for your teeth. buy some three6 mafia cd's and immerse yourself in the awesomeness of memphis culture.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 2:07 am
 
truly. awesome.

despite what some folks says, there is a bike culture here. it usually consists of a 50 year old man riding a womans/ kids bike and dragging another bmx bike behind him. looks like fun!
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 2:30 am
 
cooper young is great jordanwebb! young ave deli is fun place with incredible food...at excellent prices $9 for hamburger...can you beat that, no?

if you cant make it to the critical mass on sunday go to semmes and hoskins Tuesday nite, there's a guy there named ray-ray at the kinda white but more vanilla colored building that doesnt look open but is, tell him you want in! see you soon!
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 7:40 am
 

free advice: sell your bike and by a late model mercury grand marquis. paint it a color that doesn't occur naturally in nature



That's fucking funny.

Seriously though, there is a critical mass, don't remember when, and i think if you go to the revolutions bike shop web site, you'll find that a lot of those guys are in to the fixies. Sounds like thats more of what you want. I think they have a good amount of weekly rides listed.

If not, try the Memphis Hightailers website. I know they do a lot of rides every week, monday - sunday. Something for everybody.

I will say this: put a shit load of lights all over your bike and WEAR A HELMET. NOT A VERY BIKE FRIENDLY CITY!
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 9:43 am
 
I believe kol is trying to get you murdered.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 10:02 am
 
despite what some folks says, there is a bike culture here. it usually consists of a 50 year old man riding a womans/ kids bike and dragging another bmx bike behind him. looks like fun!

saw that dude on watkins yesterday!
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 12:44 pm
 
well, despite any sarcastic insinuations, i'm not sure i can go anywhere other than up. see, i'm from fresno, which was rated america's dumbest metro area by the daily beast. there's major poverty, drug, infrastructure and economic opportunity issues. the good news? memphis ranked slightly higher, coming in 51st out of 55. moving on up in the world.

regardless, i've been to memphis several times on road trips and it seemed alright.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 12:46 pm
 
"I got off in Fresno,
it smelled like a cesspool!"
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 1:31 pm
 
Downtown is a weird place in memphis. Not a bad place, but a little more tourist trappy in the more highly trafficked areas. But, being a bike rider, you would be able to get around well. Heading to Midtown from Downtown on a bike is dicey. I have a couple friends who live downtown and liked to do it on Sunday afternoons every once in a while but not as a primary mode of transport.
Critical Mass is not a regular thing there, that is for sure. I know they had one about once a year for a while, but nothing regularly scheduled that I know of.
My best friend is a triathlete and can give you some ideas on some cool riding trails and ways to go on century rides, but other than that I am not sure.
Where are you working? And, how far is it from the downtown core? You don't have to give the name of the company if you don't want, but cross streets would help with people giving you ideas on where you will be safest to ride.
And, the burger at the deli is not 9 bucks.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 1:47 pm
 
@sambeaux, you don't even know how true that statement is.

@joe, that's helpful. i've got a car but prefer to bike if at all possible. i'm working for a homeless shelter called door of hope, working on economic development for them. the cross streets are union and manassas, just west of the medical center. also, 9 bucks for a burger seemed steep.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 1:51 pm
 
Your bike might get stole over there.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 2:05 pm
 
its pretty rough?
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 2:06 pm
 
It can be rough. I won't lie. But, take the bike inside and all will be well.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 2:25 pm
 
@sambeaux

Huh, that's cool, it's kind of like the e-equivalent of double finger guns.

Well, maybe just a single finger gun.

Or maybe just pointing.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 2:26 pm
 
There are plenty of streets running all ways that are safe to ride on from downtown to midtown.

Jefferson, Linden, even Vance are all fine, even at night. Well, maybe not vance, but the rest are. Jackson is not bad either.

And i've found that most streets running north and south in that area are fine as well.

Joe's right. Take your bike in.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 2:57 pm
 
Your bike might get stole over there.
But, take the bike inside and all will be well.

I should clarify. Take your bike in anywhere in Memphis. I wouldn't leave one out if you're relying on it as your main mode of transportation.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 3:02 pm
 
i'd probably take the third option, sambeaux. good to see theres a bit of a snarky humor to memphis.

also, while most of the discussions been about bikes, i'm wondering about coffeeshops. saw one near sun studios called quetzal that seemed like a good place. yay or nay?
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 3:22 pm
 
@Sambeaux or...@jordanweeb..Sambeaux's humor is more crusty than snarky

@jordanweeb watchout for quetzal, it's owned by flaming-straight right wing christian fundamentalists with families
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 3:28 pm
 
and trucks made in USA
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 3:32 pm
 
you could probably get a part time job there. they've been advertising help wanted several times a week for like the last 8 months.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 3:42 pm
 
URL

in regards to working there
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 4:02 pm
 
yeah i figured something must be up when the guy buys an ad several times/ week for months at a time. they can't be that busy.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 4:02 pm
 
the 'if you dont like america, you can get the fuck out' crowd eh? i would imagine theres quite a bit more of that in memphis than here. true?
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 4:05 pm
 
except that crowd are the really whiny ones now. muslim socialist negro president, y'know.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 4:11 pm
 
riiiiiight. is that a pretty strong voice in the city? i really don't know loads about memphis and i'd rather not rely on stereotypical, unfair speculation on people, places and cultural/political norms.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 4:12 pm
 
kind of hoping for secession to be honest. it will be like the trail of tears when those of us who don't hate fags get out before the wall goes up. but instead of tears it will be LOLs and bat-hits. i will miss NOLA, but with great change comes great sacrifice.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 4:13 pm
 
Has anyone posted this yet?
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 7:32 pm
 
quetzal is overpriced and has some issues. not a big fan of republic either.

i like going to eclectic. good coffee, free wifi, and not a terrible crowd. service can be a little slow though, so if you're in a hurry it's not the place to go. they've also got decent food and baked goods as well. their house drip is yum and they brew illy for their espresso.

as far as otherlands is concerned, i really don't like their coffee (it tastes burnt to me) and there are some creepy weirdos that hang out there. i do like their bagel sandwich thing on the rare occasion so i will poke my head in the door every now and again.

i very rarely go to java cabana, so i don't really know a whole lot about that place.

and jerry is totally right with the wearing a helmet thing. memphis drivers are not very bike friendly. they will tap your back wheel and laugh about it. kinda scary. for some reason or another though, i don't get anywhere close to being hit while i am out roller skating though...

and as far as leaving your bike outside, get a damn good lock. even then though, people will steal yo shit. you got to really really really lock everything up or take it inside. people love to lift bikes and bike parts here. it's like a fucking game for crackheads. they will try to sell your shit to anyone walking down the street to see what they can get for it.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 9:04 pm
 
cheers for the coffee establishments synopsis, elle. eclectic looks solid and illy is a satisfactory blend.

at this point, with everyones description, memphis is lying somewhere between purgatory and detroit in my mind.

any good dive bar recommendations?
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 9:29 pm
 
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 9:55 pm
 
memphis is lying somewhere between purgatory and detroit in my mind.

Ok, you're alright.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 10:07 pm
 
free advice: sell your bike and by a late model mercury grand marquis. paint it a color that doesn't occur naturally in nature. put on oversized rims worth five times the value of your car. get a gold grill for your teeth. buy some three6 mafia cd's and immerse yourself in the awesomeness of memphis culture.

Sev, that's SOOOO North Memphis Y2K !
..but then again
URL

Jordanweeb... Hemant is a great landlord if you are looking for a cool old house to rent in Midtown Memphis, easy biking to the Goner store!
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 10:12 pm
 
oops, sorry alisa, just saw your bulletin.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 10:30 pm | Edited by: SAMBEAUX
 
@kol, I'm crusty? wait til jordanweeb meets Sherman

@jordanweeb, Sherman is so crusty, he makes Sherman Helmsley look like Mary Poppins, he's so crusty he makes Anti-Cimex look like N'Sync, he's so crusty he's been spread all over the faces of those starving kids in Africa with all those flies swarming about them, he's that crusty, you know what I'm talking about!

But I really like the @some_guy thing, I hope when I use it people will imagine a single finger gun like a friend of David Letterman's approving of his sexcapades over a round of raquetball or like one CEO giving props to the penis of another CEO in a sauna. I hadn't ever seen it used before, I'm going to start using it to the point of abuse.

Kol moved to detroit once. He moved back.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 10:50 pm
 
@jordanweeb...don't do that @ thing anymore, or people (SAMBEAUX, et al.) will really make fun of you.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 10:57 pm
 
@Alisa, shut up, it is awesome.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 11:08 pm
 
@SAMBEAUX....AWSM!!!!!!!!
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 11:11 pm
 
@bruce, perfect thanks. that was helpful.

@sambeaux, a#1. sherman's damn crusty. who the hell is sherman? b#2. overusing the @ feature could open up new horizons for you. excess is the new black. boom.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 11:13 pm
 
i thought making fun of people went out of style in junior high? maybe not.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 11:17 pm
 
and if sambeaux wants to make fun of me while coming up with andy roony-esque analogies, i can be the punching bag.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 11:17 pm | Edited by: Alisa
 
@jordanweeb...hahaha. NOT ON THE GONER BOARD! It's just one smart assed make fun of someone comment after the other. You'll get used to it.
Though, we can be RLY a LVABLE BNCH!

Oh no, no, no. Don't EVER let it be known you're willing to be a punching bag.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 11:25 pm
 
everyone's gotta be the new folks sometimes. i immediately retract my punching bag statement. it was an awful decision. ha.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 11:29 pm
 
Good boy. I was new here too, long ago.
I look forward to seeing you in bike shorts.
Posted: Oct 7, 2009 11:45 pm
 
spandex is an underrated material. nearly positive that in my history studies, i learned the greeks came up with it. ingenious. the pinnacle of their reign over this earth.
Posted: Oct 8, 2009 9:24 am
 
riiiiiight. is that a pretty strong voice in the city? i really don't know loads about memphis and i'd rather not rely on stereotypical, unfair speculation on people, places and cultural/political norms.

@jordanweeb - generalizing is a natural survival instinct, and i think it's fair to be speculative of anyone who comes to your town looking for "fixies"

@sambeaux+@jordanweeb - sambeaux is more kafka-esque than andy roony-esque
Posted: Oct 8, 2009 1:04 pm
 
yeah, definitely. it was more maybe me saying i'd rather listen to you about what memphis is like than project what my generalizations are. lifes pretty nuanced. you have every right to speculate. i'm the new person.
Posted: Oct 8, 2009 2:05 pm
 
Well, lets put it this way.

I was in Detroit for the SuperBowl four years ago. I was hanging around downtown before the game and started up a conversation with some Thuggish types in the beer garden I was in. After a minute or two they said something about my southern accent. I said I was from Memphis. All three of them were like "Yo, I heard that place was crazy!". One of them said his mom was going to go see family there and backed out becuase she was scared to go there. So, the Memphis' reputation precedes it.
Now, I lived there for 20 years before moving for work. I loved it and had very few problems. Random vandalism to my car once, someone tried to break into my house once, and that was about it. There are neighborhoods, for sure, that are bad. There are some that will straight up creep you the fuck out and will make you never want to visit again. (I foudn them when I was working for Allstate and had to do inspections on houses. Holy shit.) But, all in all, the city is a blast. Good music, good places to eat and drink, and generally friendly people.

Dive bars:

The Lamplighter
The Bucc
Alex's tavern
Murphy's
P&H

Those five will get you started. Alex's is a latenight place if you are looking for a drunk crowd and late night burgers. Before about 1 AM it is a ghost town and can be key to a relaxed evening at a bar.
Posted: Oct 8, 2009 3:45 pm
 
free shows at the Overton Park Shell in midtown. Some are good.

bike trails in Overton Park midtown. Also bums and men trying to hook up with each other in the woods of the trails, but you are good if you are biking on the trails themselves.

i concur with the aforementioned dive bars.

i like java cabana (midtown) for their teas and cakes and stuff. otherlands for their breakfast. eclectic for their food.

always take your bike inside.

i lived in new orleans before here. Memphis is hood, but its fine if you have a brain (that you use) and a bit of street smarts.
Posted: Oct 8, 2009 4:39 pm
 
bike trails in Overton Park midtown.

@everyone, quit riding your bike on those dirt paths, they are foot paths. Use the pavement in the park.
Posted: Oct 8, 2009 4:39 pm
 
Memphis is hood, but its fine if you have a brain (that you use) and a bit of street smarts.

And, that is it, in a nutshell.
Posted: Oct 8, 2009 6:14 pm
 
@ everyone, stop using the lawn at overton park, it is overflow vehicle parking for the zoo
Posted: Oct 9, 2009 10:01 am
 
@sambeaux

those people on foot; we get 10 points everytime we take one out. they can go do their drug deals and impregnate each others 16 year old asses in the unaturally green lake at the park.
Posted: Oct 9, 2009 10:12 am
 
@ everyone, stop using the lawn at overton park
as your dogs fucking bathroom. Seriously. Clean up your dogs business.

@everyone, quit riding your bike on those dirt paths, they are foot paths

True. The paths are for letting your dogs run crazy and dudes trying to get laid by other dudes. No room for bikes back there.
Posted: Oct 9, 2009 1:52 pm | Edited by: Jack Stands
 
@ everyone, stop using the lawn at overton park
as your dogs fucking bathroom. Seriously. Clean up your dogs business

as it's well known that dog business is furniture sales. It's bad enough when dogs bring antique furniture into actual bathrooms for sale, but once they start hawking lamp posts on the lawn, aren't we giving them a little too much freedom?
Posted: Oct 10, 2009 8:56 pm
 
gotta check out Paris Theatre on Summer Ave. for independent, diy, locally-produced films

@delicious!
Posted: Oct 10, 2009 9:03 pm
 
you might wanna check out backstreet
Posted: Oct 11, 2009 10:50 am
 
Bruce says the Pumping Station is a great place to get a hot dog.
Posted: Oct 13, 2009 7:09 am
 
Hot dogs at the "station" are GREAT!!!
Posted: Oct 13, 2009 7:17 am
 
I'm sorry, I forgot who this was for.......


hotdogs@pumpingstationrgreat


there, that's better.
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