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Posted: May 6, 2008 9:15 pm
 
I was in Schnuck's Midtown tonight -- how long have they been asking every customer for their zip code? I hate places that ask for stuff like this. A grocery store?!?!

You're Schnucks on Union. You're more expensive than Kroger and the Pig, and you have less selection. The ONLY thing you have going for you is that you're close. What the hell zip codes do they think they're gonna get??

Hope this is just temporary... that place is enough of a hassle as it is.
Posted: May 6, 2008 9:43 pm
 
lie
don't tell them its 38104... tell them its 10001 or something (10001 is the zip code of the big general post office in nyc)
Posted: May 6, 2008 10:04 pm
 
Two reasons:

1. marketing analysis
2. they get a better interchange fees on their credit card transactions with information like zip code.
Posted: May 6, 2008 10:06 pm
 
3. it's also a security precaution for credit cards. More info here.
Posted: May 6, 2008 11:45 pm
 
Tell them you have AIDS.
Posted: May 6, 2008 11:54 pm
 
3. it's also a security precaution for credit cards. More info here.


Predominantly used for "card-not-present" transactions (i.e. MOTO (mail order, telephone order)). If the card is present and the user hands over the card (which, presumably (most often not), the merchant asks for proof of ownership via ID), you have no reason to give them Zip code (Mark correctly speaks of AVS - Address Verification Service - which ties the cardholder to their billing address).

They probably had a bad download to their terminals/system or they have a manager that is an idiot that insists on the Service. (Sorry, TK, if the clerk entered a bad address, this would be a "ding" on the customer's card)

BTW, Zip Code does not authorize or decline your credit payment; it only verifies that the Zip Code is properly attached to the correctly billed card-holder.
Posted: May 7, 2008 2:55 am
 
with all due respect to jack stands and the millionaire... i know that the electronic credit card thing is your area of expertise BUT... i've been asked for my zip code on transactions that do NOT involve a credit card.... asked before the method of payment was declared...

i KNOW about the AVS - when it started to be used across the board, it was a pain for me because i would have my billing address and my service address on many accounts be different as my own personal method of security

radio shack is one store that asks for your zip code even if your transaction is less than $1 and you're paying in pennies. its all about MARKETING, regardless of if credit cards are involved. when its about marketing, i lie. because i can
Posted: May 7, 2008 7:12 am
 
they also use it to determine into which neighboring zip code they should build more stores.
Posted: May 7, 2008 7:19 am
 
Yeah, I don't think this has anything to do with credit cards or AVS -- they're asking EVERYBODY, at the start of the transaction, no matter if they're paying cash, credit, check or food stamp card.

I get the purpose of asking for marketing reasons, if you're a relatively unique store attracting folks from all over town, and you're thinking about opening more locations. But this is a neighborhood grocery store that's been in the same spot (under various names) for how long now? And it's part of a chain that is one of the largest in town -- it's not like people from all over the city make a special trip just to shop at Schnuck's on Union.

The only practical info I can see them getting out of this is maybe trying to find out how many downtowners shop there, in case they're thinking about a new store there.

And Theresa, I like lying in cases like this too... except I was buying beer and had to show my ID anyway!
Posted: May 7, 2008 8:16 am | Edited by: SAMBEAUX
 
Use zipcode 69420. They'll know you're "down".
Posted: May 7, 2008 8:54 am
 
You're more expensive than Kroger and the Pig, and you have less selection.

is it though? I've recently hit the Pig on the way home from work to avoid mind-crushing shopping cart gridlock, stupidly long lines (really, I can't deal with Schnuck's until after 10pm or in the morning before work) and maybe, hopefully save a little dough. I really don't think I did. I mean, your the fucking pig!! a 3-pack of single-serving tuna doesn't need to be practically $5!

It could be that food prices are just up across the board though.
Posted: May 7, 2008 9:07 am
 
"I don't know" works pretty good.
Posted: May 7, 2008 11:15 am
 
I fucking hate, hate, hate that shit. It's not like they're going to get plenty of information on you when you use your debit card or anything.

Tell them 20301. That's the Pentagon.
Posted: May 7, 2008 11:18 am
 
20500 is the White House.
Posted: May 7, 2008 1:16 pm
 
20500 is the White House.

my friend who was the tour accountant for Joe Walsh used to put "1700 Pennsylvania Avenue" as the home address for all the band members when checking into hotels on tour- he said it was Joe's request. He said it was surprising how many hotel clerks didn't know it was the White House's address


It could be that food prices are just up across the board though.


they ARE - but food prices seem to be higher in so-called ghetto stores because The Man seems to want to perpetuate the ghetto - lot of people have to walk to those stores or are otherwise chained to shopping there, so they get gouged even if they po'
Posted: May 7, 2008 1:24 pm
 
I am seriously considering driving over to West Memphis once a week for gasoline and groceries...and liquor! I am sure it is noticibly cheaper.
Posted: May 7, 2008 1:29 pm
 
how much is gas in memphis now? its around $3.50 in nashville. last time i filled up the tank in memphis (10 days ago), i felt lucky to have paid $3.44
Posted: May 7, 2008 1:42 pm
 
filled up today, it was 3.49
Posted: May 7, 2008 1:43 pm
 
West Memphis

It's Arkansas, no tax on groceries! (well, just the food stuffs)
Posted: May 7, 2008 2:01 pm
 
I am seriously considering driving over to West Memphis once a week for gasoline and groceries...and liquor! I am sure it is noticibly cheaper.
Get some gas masks for you and your honey, first.
Posted: May 7, 2008 2:04 pm | Edited by: dirtywhite
 
You won't need it once you're there, but the drive over stinks to high heaven. Although, that could've been Sam's anal interpretation of Billy Joel's "Second Wind".
Posted: May 7, 2008 2:05 pm
 
I shop at Schnucks specifically to use the gas card...for every 25 dollars of groceries you buy you get 5 cents off per gallon of gas...so when I weekly grocery shop and spend say 150.00...I fill up the next day at Schnucks in Bartlett and save30 cents per gallon....good deal IMHO
Posted: May 7, 2008 2:13 pm
 
specifically to use the gas card.

yeah - i do that w/ kroger - its not quite the same deal, but every penny helps. kroger gives you 3 cents off
Posted: May 7, 2008 2:56 pm
 
1700 Pennsylvania Avenue

1600

carry on
Posted: May 7, 2008 3:10 pm
 
I always thought the "on the way to West Memphis smell" was like a bunch of rotten potatoes; it was horrid.

But hey, cheaper gas, no tax on food, liquor at the grocery store...I'll deal with it. I plan on hitting the farmer's market downtown for produce though.

But this is an aside, where should we buy the meats/seafoods? I would imagine East Memphis might have to be ventured into for this.
Posted: May 7, 2008 3:32 pm
 
when i worked dowtown i bought gas and hit the (gasp!) wal-mart because it was so much cheaper.

fiery - i like the fresh market at white station and poplar for meat/seafood. but it's probably high and the traffic is shit.

i once refused to complete my transaction at a shoe carnival that asked for my phone number /zip code (i can't remember which) the cashier who was a manager told me that I HAD to give it to them or they couldn't sell me anything. I said ok and left the shit on the counter, then went to my shitty job wearing the shitty shoes and shitty socks I intended to replace that day.
Posted: May 7, 2008 3:46 pm
 
I second the Fresh Market vote.
My stepdad swears by Sam's for everything, but I don't believe him when it's about fresh salmon.
Posted: May 7, 2008 3:53 pm
 
The Wal-Mart has the same damn food as Schnucks etc. I am not afraid! I hate Wal-Mart; not necessarily for political reasons, but the atmosphere SUCKS. However, no tax on cheaper food is a-ok. And they sell the Panchos dip products which is basically the only real processed food I buy these days.

I have no problems spending more for fresh meat and fish. Where is the best Asian market these days?
Posted: May 7, 2008 4:18 pm
 
1700 Pennsylvania Avenue

1600

carry on


TYPO - sorry about that
Posted: May 7, 2008 4:19 pm
 
And they sell the Panchos dip products

Yeah, so does Fresh Market.
Posted: May 7, 2008 5:42 pm
 
Is the going-to-West-Memphis smell distinct from the general dog-food-went-bad-at-the-chemical-plant smell that periodically wafts across Mid- and Downtown?
Posted: May 7, 2008 6:15 pm
 
Is the going-to-West-Memphis smell distinct from the general dog-food-went-bad-at-the-chemical-plant smell that periodically wafts across Mid- and Downtown?

Yeah. That smell is from the Ralston factory on Jackson...or at least, it used to be.

How much does the Fresh Market try to mark up a large Panchos Cheese Dip???
Posted: May 8, 2008 1:55 am
 
with all due respect to jack stands and the millionaire...
This stuff is all tied together, TK.
AVS, direct mail, driver's license identification via bar-codes and magnetic swipe for "adult products".
It's all tied to the big database. You can put on a tin foil hat now.

Please research Lexus Nexus (as one, old example), and note they don't tell you who pours info into them.

Rachel's transaction may not have been related to AVS. But it really is part of a bigger effort.
Posted: May 8, 2008 2:00 am
 
If you have an hour, watch it; this is part of it.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/homefront/view/
Posted: May 8, 2008 2:03 am
 
But it really is part of a bigger effort.

when are they gonna eliminate CASH?
Posted: May 8, 2008 2:16 am
 
The Great Cashless Society is a very real project.
Credit, Debit, EBT, Direct Deposit.
In 2000, the government (supposedly) was not allowed to access private company databases.

I was going to say a little more (and I'll tell you over a burbon next time your in town), but also look at the cell telcos and their willingness to turn over info.

The gov't shouldn't be watching the people. Also, The corporations have no right to my info, either. That's America as I remember it.

Just give them a fucked up zipcode next time.
Posted: May 8, 2008 7:59 am
 
Is the going-to-West-Memphis smell distinct from the general dog-food-went-bad-at-the-chemical-plant smell that periodically wafts across Mid- and Downtown?

At our house, on good days, we get the Wonder Bread Factory on Monroe and/or Paynes. Never anything too gross, diesel fumes from Lamar maybe.

The West Memphis smell is almost odor less but gives me headaches. Toxic Waste?
Posted: May 8, 2008 10:00 am
 
The gov't shouldn't be watching the people.

when i was 18, i registered to vote in the socialist workers party
my dad knew about it kinda like the moment i did
he came home and told me it was OK to be a dem (my folks were republicans, duh) but that the socialist workers party registration would be a stain on my record

cuz you know, one of his world-planning cigarette smoking men from work obviously had me monitored (or my dad monitored). oh - and i was told from a very early age (probably from 1964!!) that our phone was tapped.

tin foil hat? dude... i should DESIGN them!

Just give them a fucked up zipcode next time.

considering i have legit residences in 3 different states, i always give a wrong zip code yet i'm not exactly lying...
Posted: May 8, 2008 10:47 am
 
Freak em out and give them 72301. That is West Memphis.
Posted: May 8, 2008 10:48 am
 


The West Memphis smell is almost odor less but gives me headaches. Toxic Waste?


It starts right around where the levee is around a lot of rice and soybean fields. Maybe it is some sort of fertilizer...or they created the levee out of something that is toxic!
Posted: May 8, 2008 11:25 am
 
I am seriously considering driving over to West Memphis once a week for gasoline and groceries...and liquor! I am sure it is noticibly cheaper.

I used to do this each friday, but with gas as expensive as it is it would be wise for me not to.
Posted: May 8, 2008 11:26 am
 
when are they gonna eliminate CASH?

Right after the rapture!
Praise the LORD!
HALLELUJAH!
Posted: May 8, 2008 11:28 am
 
Tell them you have AIDS.

Tell EVERYONE!!!
Posted: May 8, 2008 11:28 am | Edited by: Will
 
when are they gonna eliminate CASH?

you mean those stickers that grace every guitar case/amp/suv of every "insurgent country" band ever?
Posted: May 8, 2008 11:37 am
 
There is a Jack Chick comic that predicted this.
Posted: May 8, 2008 8:32 pm
 
Where is the best Asian market these days?

I'd say Viet Hoa on Cleveland, next to Lobster King. Very good prices on produce, and the stuff looks good.
Posted: May 8, 2008 10:10 pm
 
I gave 'em my unzip code.
Posted: May 9, 2008 1:48 am
 
they tried to get me today! i gave 'em some baloney, but next time i'm either going to ask 'em why they're asking me, or tell 'em i'm homeless.
Posted: Jun 15, 2008 7:48 pm
 
Why does Schnuck's want my damn zip code?

'Cause that cashier with the hairy mole on her chin wants to follow you home one evening and stand outside your bedroom window, clutching a jar of Vick's Vapor Rub in one hand and a machete in the other.

Alex Forrest from 'Fatal Attraction' - "I won't be ignored, Dan!"
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